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bridging with dbol

Luigi

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DBol bridge

This is a B-R-I-D-G-E.

Your LH function and Test levels are supposed

to RECOVER.

Here's the pharmo-kinetics behind Methandrostenelone,

brand name Dianabol.

10mg taken at once will increase your average testosterone level by 5 times and decrease your endogeneous cosrtisone

by 50-70%.

The reason why dianabol is a good choice for a bridge is that

its VERY anti-catabolic. It also dopaminergic. Giving you the

benefits of increased CNS strength modulation by

its androgenic mode of action.

Androgens, in case you don't know, increase neuro-muscular

function, thus STRENGTH.

OK. Now, lets delve into the metabolic chemistry behind

dianabol's choice as a bridging agent.

When are testosterone levels highest?

Answer: In the AM, thats when.

Your body releases a tesosterone spike in the morning.

This is when tesosterone levels are highest.

When are Insulin levels lowest?

Answer: In the AM thats when.

Low insulin levels=increased protein used as fuel.

(Also fat, but protein is also being converted

to glucose via glucogenesis)

OK, here is where dball's short half-life works for us

(Its 3.2-4.5 hrs btw)

Lets take Subject X.

He's in bridging mode.

He has just woken up.

The body is about to release tesosterone, thus

creating a spike.

His insulin levels are low.

His LH and test levels are very low.

He pops 10mgs of dianabol.

Here is where things get interesting.

The 10mgs of dianabol will cause a testosterone

spike WHICH COINCIDES WITH the testosterone

released ENDOGENEOUSLY in the AM by the testes.

The body will be partially fooled.

It will not entirely detect the increased levels of testosterone

(above the normal test sipke), thus LH function WILL

REMAIN only partially(Very little actually) suppressed.

In other words, he is "piggy-backing" an extra dose of testosterone on top of the endogeneously reduced one,

thus creating an "inflated" test spike.

Henceforth, LH levels WILL BE ALLOWED TO SLOWLY

RECOVER over time.

Also, dballs anti-catabolic effect will help curb protein-loss

in the morning from low insulogenic levels.

HOWEVER, and here is where almost all of you go wrong.

You CANNOT GO PAST 10mg of dianabol in the AM

for this bridge to work!!!!

Why? Because of the blood levels of dianabol you would generate.

10mg in the AM will be broken down to 5mg in about 4 hrs

(Probably less)

5mg of dianabol, is not enough to cause another rise

in testosterone levels after the precceeding one. Thus,

LH function is allowed to up-regulate.

Anything more(Say 20mgs), will cause a SEDCONDARY

testosterone spike which WILL inhibit LH function further,

thus not allowing LH function to recover.

Oh yeah...100mgs? ROTLMFAO!! Fat chance.

The difference between 20mgs and 10mgs means the difference

between allowing LH to recover slowly and not allowing it to.

So, here's the scenario summed up:

Beginning: LOW LH and test.

Adding the 10mgs dball.

LH is allowed to SLOWLY RECOVER over time as

testosterone levels are kept at a level which

will not cause muscle-loss. Also, dball's anti-catabolic effects

will reduce protein degradation.(Via cortisone

reduction)

This is what i call a double positive. You have managed to

INCREASE anabolism(Test levels) and DECREASE

catabolism(cortisone), during a bridge to boot!!

The bridge should last 8 weeks, NO LESS.

I also have to say, that it WILL NOT restore

complete LH function. It'll get you 80-90%

of the way there but the only way you're going

to get your full LH function back is if you go OFF

completely.

Anavar WILL NOT restore LH completely either btw.

(In case anybody is wondering.)

The difference is that with anavar you can take it

throughout the day and with dball it HAS TO BE

once in the AM.

has anyone tryd this ? have read elsewhere that this theory has been disproven but interested to know if anyone on here has tryd it.

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has anyone tryd this ? have read elsewhere that this theory has been disproven but interested to know if anyone on here has tryd it.

iv done it heaps!

iv talked bout it heaps on this site b4.

so its all good ? does your body still recover while running it ? balls come back to size ?

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has anyone tryd this ? have read elsewhere that this theory has been disproven but interested to know if anyone on here has tryd it.

iv done it heaps!

iv talked bout it heaps on this site b4.

So what were your conclusions. Were you Bridging or Cruising?

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I cant believe you guys think you can take an exogenous supply of hormone and your HPTA is still going to recover.

Also,I would'nt bridge with an oral as you need your liver to recover for next cycle ,when you hit it with a stack of injectables and orals.

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bridging is bullshit IMO, your test axis is not going to recover this way, it will remain suppressed.

the best way is either stay on, Ie ,blast-cruzie, which is basically what bridging is or IMO taper off with something like the status taper method if you want to give your system a chance to start up again which is pretty much what this method is with the dbols.

would be interesting to see blood work with this method.

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would be interesting to see blood work with this method.

I'd like to see it

The blood work after running 10mg of dbol ed for 10 weeks will surely have LH at just above zero.

Running a short acting oral administered once daily as a bridge is also not a good idea for the reason,at least 8 hours a day will be spent in a catabolic state.

better to run 100-200mg of test IMO.

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Are you thinking of doing this for yourself, Luigi? Have you got pre/post-cycle blood tests that you can compare this with?

nope no intention of doing this this time around but something im looking at for the future. just reading up on it a bit and getting peoples opinions etc.

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This theory of using am dbol to restore HPTA & LH has been around for some time. Some advocate using up to 20mgs upon waking. I guess it depends on the strength of your compound. Anyway, there is many opinions for & against it. There are none that I can find backed up with blood tests before & after the "bridging" period. Personally, I believe it is somewhat flawed in practice as attested by those that have used this method of coming off. Invariably, most users found their HPTA & "morning wood" only restored after ceasing the bridging period & many only used this for short periods between cycles to maintain mass & reduce cortisol production. I would be happy for someone to prove me wrong or show me a study to back up the theory as I am rather partial to using the odd pink or two in varying stages of a cycle. :P

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hey not really relevant but just came across this guys cycle... have a read

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/my-st ... 006-a.html

insane dosages.

Crazy stuff. His weight was up & down depending on the amount of gear he was using. Any one should be able to grow on 3g AAS & 40iu slin. But at what cost to the body & even he described himself as a "Fat Bastard". Don't think the Dbol would have made much difference in his cycle.

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Personally I wouldn't bridge/cruise on an oral like dinabol, I think for long term liver health etc an injectable like test is better.

Talk to 10 bodybuilders about bridging and cruising and most likely you will get 10 different answers. My opinion is that bridging is using a dose some what near to the natural level of test that the body produces. Of course the natural level can differ quite a bit from person to person with factors like age etc coming into it. IMO I would consider any dose under 125mgs per week to be bridging

Cruising is done with a dose that is quite a bit higher than the natural test level and used to maintain and even increase body weight while waiting to do the next cycle. I'm on 250mgs per week of test e at the mo so consider myself to be cruising for the next 8 weeks until my next cycle (blast).

I talk to guys at the gym who while on cycle have a good diet, train hard and get plenty of sleep and lay of the booze then as soon they come off cycle they hit the piss, eat crap and seem to train half hearted. No wonder they loose size and get disillusioned. (not implying anyone on here is doing this) :)

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This thread is somewhat relevant to bridging.

theres the usual 12 weeks ON CYCLE at 500mg Test / week

but then there's a 6 week LAG PERIOD of 100mg Test /week

the theory is that you use the time to get rid of any other AAS and also running at 100mg/week is around normal TRT Dosage..? by the end of the 6 weeks ur bodies more ready to create its own natty test..?

the there's PCT

which goes (just an example)

week 1 Test @ 85mg

week 1 Test @ 75mg

week 1 Test @ 65mg

week 1 Test @ 55mg

week 1 Test @ 45mg

week 1 Test @ 25mg

throughought the entire cycle you run exemestane at 12.5mg or 25mg ED

and if all goes well perhaps no need for a SERM, or maybe just a low dose Clomid.

http://canadianjuicemonsters.org/forums ... hp?t=21512

looks tempting to me and id like to give it a try but whether it works or not is a different story!

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This thread is somewhat relevant to bridging.

theres the usual 12 weeks ON CYCLE at 500mg Test / week

but then there's a 6 week LAG PERIOD of 100mg Test /week

similar to what i did, lost no weight or strength at all so seems to be the way to go.

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