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My bulking diet

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6.30am 2 cups apple juice, banana, 7 raw eggs (4 whole) with 1 scoop whey and some oats thrown in the shake also

7.30am 4 bits bread

10am 2 chicken breasts or 4 chicken legs, beans, 6-7 small potatoes

12.30noon 200-250g mince, 1 cup rice, beans

3.30pm 6 bread, couple chicken breasts or chicken legs

5.15pm workout

6.15 - 6.45pm PWO shake (2 scoops whey, 100g dextrose)

7 - 7.30pm 6-7 raw eggs, 1 scoop whey, with 1-2cup oats in a shake, banana

9.00pm 200-250g mince, ~1/2cup rice, veggies

I plan on swapping the raw eggs for liquid egg whites or egg white powder. Raw eggs are hard to digest I know...

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watch the raw eggs man, theres no significant benefit over cooking them.

Also the 6 - 7 eggs you consume in the evening... are they whole ?

Great source of calories but if youre in the region of 10 - 12 whole eggs a day keep tabs on your cholestrol bro.

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to much protein ,not enough fiberious carbs, to much processed white food, no essential fats, your eating raw egg,and you will get sick of it in 3 weeks and binge eat for sweetness and varity!!!

you also say a couple of chicken breasts or legs , the breasts would be giving around 80grm protein apx whilst the chicken legs around 35grm apx(size dependent), you should idealy have around 1 x breast(40grm protein).

i would also drop the volume of bread you are having , and replace it with better grades of carbs , such as kumera, rice , whole meal pasta etc.

Also there is a fine line betweeen getting fat and gaining muscle, the latter being the more desired i would say !!

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to much protein ,not enough fiberious carbs, to much processed white food, no essential fats, your eating raw egg,and you will get sick of it in 3 weeks and binge eat for sweetness and varity!!!

you also say a couple of chicken breasts or legs , the breasts would be giving around 80grm protein apx whilst the chicken legs around 35grm apx(size dependent), you should idealy have around 1 x breast(40grm protein).

i would also drop the volume of bread you are having , and replace it with better grades of carbs , such as kumera, rice , whole meal pasta etc.

Also there is a fine line betweeen getting fat and gaining muscle, the latter being the more desired i would say !!

Thanks dude, I never thought of a couple of those points. FYI the chicken breasts aren't boneless.

Pseudyonm (sp?) posted a link to liquid egg whites/egg white powder the other day, in the weekend I'm going to make some enquiries.

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It's a good question. I've always assumed it was the uncooked weight, but I don't think I've ever actually seen it written, so I may be wrong...

I believe 500g uncooked chicken has about 166g protein. And if that's not the case, I'll need to reconfigure my diet!

Someone needs to check this because I was just about to post this same question.

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Its uncooked values !!!

sponge just be carefull with to much protein, as it can cause a ammonia build up in your blood steam which in turn causes you to become very tired and lathargic, it is actualy a common problem with bodybuilders as they strive to get in mega amounts of protein, good amounts of protein is essential but to much can have a negative effect, take OkG or glutamine if you are on a high protein diet as they act as amonia scavengers and clean it up from the blood stream !!

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Its uncooked values !!!

sponge just be carefull with to much protein, as it can cause a amino build up in your blood steam which in turn causes you to become very tired and lathargic, it is actualy a common problem with bodybuilders as they strive to get in mega amounts of protein, good amounts of protein is essential but to much can have a negative effect, take OkG or glutamine if you are on a high protein diet as they act as amonia scavengers and clean it up from the blood stream !!

whats okG mate ?

and anyone have links on Glutamines ammonia scavenging functions ? .. its the first time Ive heard this and interested to learn more.

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Its uncooked values !!!

sponge just be carefull with to much protein, as it can cause a ammonia build up in your blood steam which in turn causes you to become very tired and lathargic, it is actualy a common problem with bodybuilders as they strive to get in mega amounts of protein, good amounts of protein is essential but to much can have a negative effect, take OkG or glutamine if you are on a high protein diet as they act as amonia scavengers and clean it up from the blood stream !!

you're a legend. at first i thought you were just here to sell supp's or something but i see that you are a knowledgeable guy. cheers

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hey its no secret i am in the supplement industry, but i have devoted my businees and knowledge and live to helping people acheive there goals, I first started in this business when i came back to NZ and realised no one was helping people with their nutrition, and no one realy new much about nutrition, that was 12 years ago and since then my company has helped thousands of people achive there goals in health and well being, people ranging from multi Mr NZ< Miss NZ compettitors to middle aged women and men whom are wanting a better live with nutrition, sure we sell supplements, we use them as tools to acheive a means to a end , but I never promote any thing i would not use myself, or my staff would not use, we reasearch everything we reccomend, and we sell as a secondary to our nutritional consultancy( thats why we do not sell everything you read about or what we can get our hands on, hell i was the guy who took the liquid creatine to court , because it was a rip of, all retail new about it but they carried on selling it !!)So if i reccomend something it is done with honesty and integrity with the goal in helping those i reccomend to,all may not agree with my reccomendations but if i reccomend something you can be assured i have tried it and found it positive in results . and that has been our way of business since we started ,

Thanks guys .

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I'm in the process of making some radical changes to this diet.

so far:

7am 400ml liquid egg whites, 1 banana, 2 cups oats, flax oil in a shake

10am 250g chicken breast, 6-7 small potatoes

12.30noon 1 cup rice, 250g mince, veggies

3.30pm (pre workout) 2 cups oats, 150-200g chicken breast

6.30-7pm (PWO) 2 scoops whey, 80-100g dextrose

7-7.30pm 400ml egg, banana, 2 cups oats, flax

9pm 1/2 cup rice, 250g mince, veggies

BED

I still gotta buy the flax oil, or fish oil whichever

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hmm. I really need to work on the 3.30pm pre workout meal. by that time of day im pooped at work and have trouble finding time to eat everything in a 15-20 min break.

anyone got any suggestions on a quick easy pre workout meal? :shock:

EDIT and by quick and easy i mean 80+g complex carbs and 20-25g solid protein :D

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