Protein supplements vs Can of Tuna

[rooney111]

I hear different views from quite a few bodybuilders and some say stay away from supplements and get protein from diet, some say whey protein right after workout gets the best results...

What do you think?

[sponge]

Whey powder isn't considered a supplement. You need protein, and calories (and other things..) so have both

[Small]

Whey powder isn't considered a supplement.

yes it is

hes not talking about those "supplements"

I hear different views from quite a few bodybuilders and some say stay away from supplements and get protein from diet, some say whey protein right after workout gets the best results...

What do you think?

what your really saying is one broad view you just havn't interepreted it correctly

most would believe get the majority of your protien from whole foods (chicken, beef, tuna etc) and then only use whey post w.o as it is quickly absorbed into the body (if you use further serves just limit it to getting more protien from foods than the whey).

[GHOSTN]

some say have whey post workout and in the morning.. then people also use casein protein at nights cause its slow absorption..

yea just try get the majority of your protein from whole food

[Luigi]

yea try to get your protein and calories from food, but if you have to then resort to supplements but they should not be used to compensate for real food.

[rooney111]

na never compensate for real food coz im a hungry boy

and protein shake is just not enough

[sponge]

Whey powder isn't considered a supplement.

yes it is

hes not talking about those "supplements"

No, it's not. Whey is effectively food.

[bigmd]

Whey powder isn't considered a supplement. You need protein, and calories (and other things..) so have both

Totally agree, protein powder is just convenent, easy powdered food. it is good to mix your proteins up as the amino ratio's are different from diffent protein sources, but Protein Powder falls into the same grouping (in my book) as fish chicken beef eggs, etc! if you can get all you requiremnts from "whole foods" great but if not protein powder is just as good. Building up to my pro Debut 50% of my protein serves are from powder.

Mike D IFBB Pro.

[Gym rat]

Whey powder isn't considered a supplement. You need protein, and calories (and other things..) so have both

Totally agree, protein powder is just convenent, easy powdered food. it is good to mix your proteins up as the amino ratio's are different from diffent protein sources, but Protein Powder falls into the same grouping (in my book) as fish chicken beef eggs, etc! if you can get all you requiremnts from "whole foods" great but if not protein powder is just as good. Building up to my pro Debut 50% of my protein serves are from powder.

Mike D IFBB Pro.

I agree as well protein powder falls into the same catergory as any protein food that is out there ie beef,chicken,lamb,eggs,milk,tuna,salmon etc

[Small]

No, it's not. Whey is effectively food.

then why do some many bbrs advise using it only to supplement your diet, not as a main source of protien (as its so cost effective p/s also) ?

[Android]

No, it's not. Whey is effectively food.

then why do some many bbrs advise using it only to supplement your diet, not as a main source of protien (as its so cost effective p/s also) ?

It is a food, but many (myself included) refer to it as a supplement, comes down to semantics.

I refer to protein powder as a supplement to whole foods as I am always saying to others, "supplement your food intake with protein powder" and this implies "supplement" means "in addition to regular food". I don't say, "here's a new food to add to your regular food, protein shakes".

Which ever way you look at it you'll eat food and take protein powder so doesn't really matter until it comes to trying to explain food and supplements to other people.

[rooney111]

Sorry it might sound a little weird but can someone confirm protein powder, whey protein etc etc is a supplement or food?

I had a massive argument(yes we were bored)I stood by saying whey protein is not a supplement, its food..but i cant prove it and on the protein tub it says

"formulated supplementary sports food"

argh!!!

[teamfatboy]

My view - protein powder's a food. It gives you protein, just like tuna or chicken.

In calling it a "supplementary food" what they mean is "don't rely on this on its own for your protein sources, eat less-refined sources like tuna, chicken, beef or soy. It's a 'supplementary' way of increasing the amount of protein in your diet in a convenient form.

[Stuntleader]

My view... Food comes in front of anything else. So if you eat crap then theres no point of having the best supplement in the world.

Have both! I don't think normal meat will be the best thing for post-workout. I believe they are to be used in 2 different places, so i don't think one is better than the other. But what i believe is that food (as in non supplements) is more important than supplements.

[rose]

Meh, whey is a 'food supplement'. Whey is great as post workout Protein Smack .

You can't build muscle on whey alone, you need unprocessed food. Like red meat 8)

Go on, prove me wrong! I dare you :pfft: I challenge you to a duel! I bags the meat 8)

[Specter]

Meh, whey is a 'food supplement'. Whey is great as post workout Protein Smack .

You can't build muscle on whey alone, you need unprocessed food. Like red meat 8)

Go on, prove me wrong! I dare you :pfft: I challenge you to a duel! I bags the meat 8)

I agree. its a supplement snack on top of your regular meals of meat etc...

[Sheta]

If you're hungry I reckon you're best to go with 'chewable' food (chicken, fish etc).

Although protein powder delivers the required amino acids to our muscles, its not that filling and doesnt take a great deal of digestion (which our bods are designed to do).

If you find yourself getting hungry quite quickly after a protein shake or a protein powder meal, try switching to real foods.

[musclenz]

Whether Whey Protein Powder is a whole food or not is kind of irrelevant. What is important in protein sources is its BV (Biological Value). That is based on the amount of protein (nitrogen) consumed vs how much was absorbed & utilized by the body. 100 is the top limit with whole eggs being the highest at 100 for absorbtion. Isolated Whey protein is also regarded as being 100. Regrettably most Protein Powder Manufacturers do not show a BV. I'm not sure as to the addition of egg proteins or casein proteins to a Protein Supplement would effect the score. Is there any Bio-Chemists on here?? But I reckon it would be a great measure between different brands & mixes. BV is though a rather confusing issue as therre are many factors involved in its calculation.

Here's a good article on Whey Protein vs Whole Food Sources -

http://www.protraineronline.com/past/no ... sfoods.cfm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biological_value