the how much do you squat thread

[sponge]

What's your current squat at?

I can do 180kg for a few sets of 5-6 reps

(though not all the way parallel because i dont want to risk my knees)

[jono]

What's your current squat at?

I can do 180kg for a few sets of 5-6 reps

(though not all the way parallel because i dont want to risk my knees)

currently 140kg ass to floor for reps. looking to push on 2wards 4pps :grin:

i have zero knee probs, i think if you control the weight all the way down you will have no probs, and better leg development :grin:

[sponge]

I respectfully disagree on the better leg development in going ass to the grass.. if you only go parallel you can put more weight on the bar - which surely equates to bigger legs?

[jono]

I respectfully disagree on the better leg development in going ass to the grass.. if you only go parallel you can put more weight on the bar - which surely equates to bigger legs?

from my personal experience, more rom = better legs. at least in my case anyway. i focus more on form and progression of weight than actual weight :grin:

but if what your doing works for you, then its all good

[sponge]

But aren't you putting a lot of bad pressure onto your joints when you go past parallel?

[ExpensiveUrine]

Second week into the training 85 kgs for 10-12.

Best was around 140 - 142.5 kgs at about 71 kgs bodyweight.

Somehow I knew Jono would be the second person to respond. :grin:

EDIT: All my squats are deep Olympic-style squats.

[jono]

But aren't you putting a lot of bad pressure onto your joints when you go past parallel?

no. knee injury comes from fools who drop down and land all the stress on their knees with no control. slow controlled down, controlled up.

i have had no knee probs at all. CONTROl the weight at all times

[jono]

Second week into the training 85 kgs for 10-12.

Best was around 140 - 142.5 kgs at about 71 kgs bodyweight.

Somehow I knew Jono would be the second person to respond. :grin:

lol.

what else im i supposed to do while i sit here eating steak and rice :grin: :grin:

plus.. its a squat thread !! :grin: :grin:

[sponge]

Second week into the training 85 kgs for 10-12.

Best was around 140 - 142.5 kgs at about 71 kgs bodyweight.

Somehow I knew Jono would be the second person to respond. :grin:

lol.

what else im i supposed to do while i sit here eating steak and rice :grin: :grin:

plus.. its a squat thread !! :grin: :grin:

haha, looks like im eating the exact same thing

squats are fun for the whole family. 140kg ass to the grass is a good squat though, i might give it a go tomorrow

[deegee]

Havent done squats in some time, will try them again for the first time in a while next week. will let you know

[hrdcor]

my best squatting was 260kg(includes bar,belt and wraps) for 4-5 reps, since back training i have worked my way back up to 180kg for 8-10 reps and seem to be getting it down pat!!

Sponge doing little 1/4squats wont cut it i am afraid dude , no matter how you try to justify it, oh and dont try and tell me it will because i am firm on this one , full squats to parallel or just past is the ideal movement for quad growth, shit we all would be squat legends if we just had to pick the bar of the rack and make a slight bend to class it as a squat,,but i guess the proof is in the quad development wouldnt you say!!

[grinder]

yep, with you on this one hrdcor. Have squatted 7pps doing 1/4's and yet get more leg tone from doing 3pps below level. Try 10 1pps arse to the ground sets, reps of 20 with 2sec static hold at the bottom and tell me you dont feel the day 2 pain... Full ROM required for big legs...

[Growth]

if you only go parallel you can put more weight on the bar - which surely equates to bigger legs?

Thats like saying load up the bar with 180kg and bench press it only half the way down. Its not going to be as effective as full rom IMO.

I think if you going to quote big three figures then you better at least be doing them to strict powerlifting codes, otherwise the numbers are irrelivent.

For me mine is 140 for 6, just sub parallel. When im doing 20 rep squats which i have just recently picked up i go vey deep, i just make sure when im going heavy to pass parallel so that i know it would pass the powerlifting rules.

[sponge]

Sponge doing little 1/4squats wont cut it i am afraid dude , no matter how you try to justify it, oh and dont try and tell me it will because i am firm on this one , full squats to parallel or just past is the ideal movement for quad growth, shit we all would be squat legends if we just had to pick the bar of the rack and make a slight bend to class it as a squat,,but i guess the proof is in the quad development wouldnt you say!!

I don't do a slight bend.. i go just a bit above 90 degrees which is still painful

[jono]

if you only go parallel you can put more weight on the bar - which surely equates to bigger legs?

Thats like saying load up the bar with 180kg and bench press it only half the way down. Its not going to be as effective as full rom IMO.

I think if you going to quote big three figures then you better at least be doing them to strict powerlifting codes, otherwise the numbers are irrelivent.

For me mine is 140 for 6, just sub parallel. When im doing 20 rep squats which i have just recently picked up i go vey deep, i just make sure when im going heavy to pass parallel so that i know it would pass the powerlifting rules.

try going heavy and as deep as you can. i think this is the best

[Growth]

I think ill stick with heavy sub parallels for my low rep sets and go as low as possible with my 20 reps sets.

My legs were killing me the next day after this method, ill stick with it for a while, maybe changeup a bit later on.

[deegee]

I believe in going as low as possible, unless you have a knee injury or something that stops you. I mean why do an excersise at all i you arent going to do it properly.

[Pseudonym]

From http://www.exrx.net/ExInfo/Squats.html ...

Full (Deep) Squat

Kreighbaum (1996) illustrate the safe position of a deep squat with the knees extending beyond the toes. Kreighbaum explains how a deep squat can be performed little chance of injury to the knee. The variables of concern:

• speed of descent
  
• size of calves and thighs
  
• strength of the controlling muscles

The primary danger to the knee occurs when the tissues of the calf and thigh press together altering the center of rotation back to the contact area creating a dislocation effect. The danger of knee injury in this situation may be prevented if either of the following factor are present:

• center of gravity of the body system is keep forward of the altered center of rotation
  
• muscles of the thigh are strong enough to prevent the body from resting or bouncing on the calves.

Kreighbaum conclude the deep squat is of little danger to the knees unless these variables and factors are disregarded.

[L.A Muscle]

Grinder can back me up on this one. I use to have skinny legs, even though they were strong. I thought I was doing everything possible to make them grow. It wasn't until I went to the U.K and started squatting Heavy and deep till my legs started to grow. Sure I squatted before then but not below 90. I built my pins to a good size, best squat 270kg 6reps. Today my right knee in F...ked. I don't believe its because of squatting its because I have flat feet. Of late I have been squatting again and my last leg w/out I did 200kg 9reps. Its good to know I still got it.

[jono]

Grinder can back me up on this one. I use to have skinny legs, even though they were strong. I thought I was doing everything possible to make them grow. It wasn't until I went to the U.K and started squatting Heavy and deep till my legs started to grow. Sure I squatted before then but not below 90. I built my pins to a good size, best squat 270kg 6reps. Today my right knee in F...ked. I don't believe its because of squatting its because I have flat feet. Of late I have been squatting again and my last leg w/out I did 200kg 9reps. Its good to know I still got it.

nice work. i also noticed when i started squatting rock bottom my legs exploded. been doing it ever since.

[deegee]

Grinder can back me up on this one. I use to have skinny legs, even though they were strong. I thought I was doing everything possible to make them grow. It wasn't until I went to the U.K and started squatting Heavy and deep till my legs started to grow. Sure I squatted before then but not below 90. I built my pins to a good size, best squat 270kg 6reps. Today my right knee in F...ked. I don't believe its because of squatting its because I have flat feet. Of late I have been squatting again and my last leg w/out I did 200kg 9reps. Its good to know I still got it.

nice work. i also noticed when i started squatting rock bottom my legs exploded. been doing it ever since.

When you started doing this jono how much were you doing (weight)

[jono]

Grinder can back me up on this one. I use to have skinny legs, even though they were strong. I thought I was doing everything possible to make them grow. It wasn't until I went to the U.K and started squatting Heavy and deep till my legs started to grow. Sure I squatted before then but not below 90. I built my pins to a good size, best squat 270kg 6reps. Today my right knee in F...ked. I don't believe its because of squatting its because I have flat feet. Of late I have been squatting again and my last leg w/out I did 200kg 9reps. Its good to know I still got it.

nice work. i also noticed when i started squatting rock bottom my legs exploded. been doing it ever since.

When you started doing this jono how much were you doing (weight)

i think when i 1st started out going rock bottom i used the bar for a while to get used to it. then i think i went to somthing like 40kg(including bar wt) and started to work my way up from there, slowly getting used to it

[frogie2001]

coming in a little late on this one. but squats,

4 sets of 10 at 130kg

but have played with the odd 140 kg a few times, must really get around to doing a big fail.

i think i just feel safer doing heavy leg press to squats

[brock_solid]

umm i do 60kgs for squats.......

I got my first leg complement the other day when i went to my army medical.....the lady goes yea you must go to the gym look at the size of those thighs!!! :grin:

[Varven]

Rock Bottom, ass to the grass 85kg as a working weight, not a 1 rep max. If not for knee injuries my estimate was I should have easily been at a 100 for working set.