SHREDDED

[nicksmith3]

Who's used CYTOLEAN from Gaspari?

[Pseudonym]

I've never heard of half of those ingredients. :-s

[Lamborghinilova]

what exactly do they mean by "that's 20% loss of body Fat"???

Dropping his BF% by 20?

or decreasing his fat by 20%?

:?

[1day]

man ,thats a cool as tat 8)

[startinfromscratch]

awesome tatt!

im a abig gaspari fan, though i know nothing about cytolean, i say all gasp supps are solid..

[nicksmith3]

what exactly do they mean by "that's 20% loss of body Fat"???

Dropping his BF% by 20?

or decreasing his fat by 20%?

:?

As in he could have been 25-30% BF before using, then dropped 20% making him 5% or 10% BF.

It's just advertising. Most companys doesn't even make sense.

[nicksmith3]

How about HOT ROX?

[bigmd]

This is the best formular for getting shredded, it the only one garenteed.

[Gym rat]

From the photos what BIGMD posted I would have to go along with that myself plus it is a heck of a lot more cheaper by doing cardio,grilling your meat on the George Forman grill or any other grill that is out there ,eating lots of nice yummy vegges and nuts as well.

[nicksmith3]

This is the best formular for getting shredded, it the only one garenteed.

I appreciate the insight Mike, really. But if you have those things down already?

I'm looking for something extra at the moment. Really looking to blow some socks off and i hear Hot Rox are one of the best things, 'over the counter' to get. Even though i would have to hope it got through customs ok...

[musclenz]

This is the best formular for getting shredded, it the only one garenteed.

I appreciate the insight Mike, really. But if you have those things down already?

I'm looking for something extra at the moment. Really looking to blow some socks off and i hear Hot Rox are one of the best things, 'over the counter' to get. Even though i would have to hope it got through customs ok...

Sure looks impressive those jugular veins You might get knocked by Medsafe on the 7-oxo-dhea as they may see it as DHEA. But then you might get lucky :wink:

[musclenz]

This is the best formular for getting shredded, it the only one garenteed.

Come on Mike, when did you get so holistic! :grin:

[fudoc5]

How about HOT ROX?

this is the nz version,never tried. but i have used the us version a few years back and have to say its the best thermo by far.only one draw back i found when this was getting caffiene crashes in between taking them.the last order i made got taken by customs :twisted: gonna give it one last attempt :pray: :pray:

[nicksmith3]

K00L. Cheers for tha input guys.. I've ordered x2 bottles of tha US Version of Hot Rox from NutraPlanet. So i'll let ya's know if customs opens the box or not.

[Construction Soldier]

Hot Rox is awsome. You'll notice other side effects too....which may just be due to other supps & good change in lifestyle...but there were differences.

Got the american version over the counter here. some stores have it, just ask behind the counter

[weener lad]

Lipo6 X all the way, of course like D alluded to the nutrition and cardio need to be spot on first.

[nicksmith3]

Hot Rox is awsome. You'll notice other side effects too....which may just be due to other supps & good change in lifestyle...but there were differences.

Got the american version over the counter here. some stores have it, just ask behind the counter

Cheers brah. Yeah but down south i doubt many retailers would have it. My store certainly doesn't stock anything remotely close to it. ;

Lipo6 X all the way, of course like D alluded to the nutrition and cardio need to be spot on first.

As for lipo, i've still got quarter a bottle sitting in my cuprboard from my last cut.. I'll probably throw that in for the 1st couple of weeks then use the hot rox for weeks 2-10..

I'm running a log of my cut on bodybuilding.com.

Not sure if i'll run it here as well...

[Luigi]

run your log here! and hot roxx are awesome, i highly doubt youll need to take them for 10 weeks, more like 4

[bigmd]

This is the best formular for getting shredded, it the only one garenteed.

I appreciate the insight Mike, really. But if you have those things down already?

I'm looking for something extra at the moment. Really looking to blow some socks off and i hear Hot Rox are one of the best things, 'over the counter' to get. Even though i would have to hope it got through customs ok...

Sure looks impressive those jugular veins You might get knocked by Medsafe on the 7-oxo-dhea as they may see it as DHEA. But then you might get lucky :wink:

We have some really good supps here that you dont have to worry whether they get through customs or not, all i have every used in the past is metaphysics Tyroxysn, hey its great if you can get some of the products from the states in but is it worth it if you loose a couple of hundered bucks when customs dont let it through.

My previous post was being a bit "smart arse" onlt because at times i see lots of people looking for the mirical Supp to get them lean, when it comes down to spending more time doing cardio. to give you an idea when i won nationals in 98 2000 and 07, i stuck completly with off the shelf products for fat burning but i was in the end clocking up 2.5 - 3hrs cardio per day.

(60min morning 40-60min afternoon, 60 last thing at night)

[nate225]

to give you an idea when i won nationals in 98 2000 and 07, i stuck completly with off the shelf products for fat burning but i was in the end clocking up 2.5 - 3hrs cardio per day.

(60min morning 40-60min afternoon, 60 last thing at night)

In 98 & 2000 there were some pretty effective over the counter thermogenic products though MD! Unfortunately the f*cken crackhead idiots have ruined that one well and truly!

[bambam]

Wasn't someone running a log with mitotropin from gaspari.. i wonder how that went.. big claims

[bigmd]

to give you an idea when i won nationals in 98 2000 and 07, i stuck completly with off the shelf products for fat burning but i was in the end clocking up 2.5 - 3hrs cardio per day.

(60min morning 40-60min afternoon, 60 last thing at night)

In 98 & 2000 there were some pretty effective over the counter thermogenic products though MD! Unfortunately the f*cken crackhead idiots have ruined that one well and truly!

the product that i was using in 2000 hasnt changes dramaticly from whats availible now.

[nate225]

to give you an idea when i won nationals in 98 2000 and 07, i stuck completly with off the shelf products for fat burning but i was in the end clocking up 2.5 - 3hrs cardio per day.

(60min morning 40-60min afternoon, 60 last thing at night)

In 98 & 2000 there were some pretty effective over the counter thermogenic products though MD! Unfortunately the f*cken crackhead idiots have ruined that one well and truly!

the product that i was using in 2000 hasnt changes dramaticly from whats availible now.

Yeah, a shame about some of the earlier thermo products though. Were very effective and as long as you had no pre-existing conditions they didn't seem to be a problem. I think one good pharmaceutical grade product (say ephedrine) would beat any of todays OTC thermos hands down. On top of that todays seem stacked with ingredients (mainly unregulated chemicals & herbal crap of which most are worthless) that are disasters waiting to happen! Only my opinion tho......