Raiseys "Slim" protein powder

[PT]

Hi everyone...

Have just purchased the above protein powder. It's made by a local company here in Napier. Has to be the yummiest powder I've tried in a long time. Blends really well with water or milk both in a blender and a normal shaker. Reasonable in price plus he has various other products depending on what your sport / goals are. This Slim powder is similar to the Sculpt range and marketed towards women trying to lose weight and / or tone. But there are others there with higher protein levels. Check out the website: http://www.raiseys.co.nz

You'd be supporting a local NZ company as well...thats got to be a good thing :clap:

[Martha]

Hello PT! You can make your own Raiseys slim powder by buying a 1kg bag of the same skim milk powder they use for $7.80 from pack n save and a tin of cadbury coco powder. That'll save you $40 a go.

[AgentOrange]

hahahahahaa

[PT]

Wow nasty Martha!

[Lamborghinilova]

Hi everyone...

Have just purchased the above protein powder. It's made by a local company here in Napier. Has to be the yummiest powder I've tried in a long time.

It also has one of the worst nutritional compositions i have seen in a long time:

grams Per 100g:

Protein: 60

Fat:5

Sat. Fat:3.9

Carbs:20

Sugars:11.4

Energy:1760KJ

Reasonable in price plus he has various other products depending on what your sport / goals are. This Slim powder is similar to the Sculpt range and marketed towards women trying to lose weight and / or tone.

This product is not really comparable to the Horleys Sculpt protein powder which has the following stats:

Protein per 100g: 76

Carbs per 100g: 4.5

Sugars per 100g: 3.1

Fat per 100g: 3.9

Energy per 100g: 1550KJ

The Horleys sculpt is about 2$ cheaper, for a 500g tub, whereas the raiseys is a 550g tub, but the sculpt also has added vitamins and minerals, and L-carnitine and L-tartrate.

So the raiseys is more expensive per gram of protein, and doesn't have the added vitamins and minerals.

I think the winner is obvious here...

although it is likey, that with over 10% suger, the raiseys tastes better. but if you are looking for good taste, then martha has the solution...add cocoa powder

[PT]

It was just a personal preference really...taste and the way it mixes is important to me. And as I said I'd rather support local business. Also they come in great foil packets that fold down to be disposed of rather than using plastic tubs. I've tried nearly all of the Horleys range and none of them mix that well or taste that great...again just personal preferance.

Also...does the sugars stated on Sculpt include the artificial sweetener thats been added? Mmmmmm and there's some nice juicy colours added to some Horleys flavours yum yum. Just depends what's important to you I guess.

[Flex]

Horleys Sculpt has the same sweetener as Raiseys Slim - Artificial Sweetener 950 – Acesulphame K which by the way is non-nutritive so doesn't contribute in any way to the nutrition profile.

Horleys however know how to spell it unlike Raiseys who spell it Acesulfan K.

Raiseys also use Carboxy Methyl Cellulose which is about as natural as Pamela Anderson.

Judging by their current range, it looks like Raiseys have been a bit too quick to jump onto a bandwagon that they don't know alot about. They should revise their sports nutrition knowledge and perhaps redevelop their range if they hope to be successful.

[Foundation]

Flex

If price wasn't an issue, what protein powder would you use if you were looking at feeding the muscles? preferably something attainable in NZ would be good.

[Lamborghinilova]

I've tried nearly all of the Horleys range and none of them mix that well or taste that great...again just personal preferance.

The taste is completly personal, but everyone else i have spoken to bar one has said that horleys ICE mixes really well.

I am not sure about sculpt from a taste or mixing perspective, but I have only had positive experiences with horleys in the past.

[Small]

Horleys however know how to spell

:pfft:

[Flex]

If price wasn't an issue, what protein powder would you use if you were looking at feeding the muscles? preferably something attainable in NZ would be good.

A general rule of thumb is that if you're not keeping an accurate food and training journal you're wasting your time using a WPI. Any decent (NZ made) MF/UF WPC is all most guys really need. If you are a competitive athlete i.e. competitive bodybuilder then a pure Micro or Ultrafiltered whey protein isolate may offer you better results as it may get utilised slightly better. Ion Exchange WPI is generally more pure but pretty much devoid of all it's immunological goodness so loses a lot of what makes whey such a good source of protein.

Middle of the road proteins (WPC/WPI blends) would be the best compromise as far as price vs effectiveness but most of them don't state what % of WPC/WPI they use nor what kind's of filtering methods are used so it could be any old crap. If you want to spend the dollars your best bet would be to buy a pure MF/UF WPI, and a pure MF/UF WPC and mix the two yourself, otherwise I'd just stick with WPC.

[Lamborghinilova]

Middle of the road proteins (WPC/WPI blends) would be the best compromise as far as price vs effectiveness but most of them don't state what % of WPC/WPI they use nor what kind's of filtering methods are used so it could be any old crap. If you want to spend the dollars your best bet would be to buy a pure MF/UF WPI, and a pure MF/UF WPC and mix the two yourself, otherwise I'd just stick with WPC.

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Horleys crossfire is a WPI/WPC belend with a small amount of casein added in. they specifically list the ratios as 47% WPI, 47% WPC and 6% casein.

Contains: Crossflow Microfiltered Whey Protein Isolate (47%), Ultrafiltered Whey Protein Concentrate (47%), Calcium Caseinate (6%)]

Would you be happy recommending this product?

[HQ308]

Horleys are still having a rough time riding out the consumer backlash over their association with Chinese made dairy ingredients during last year’s NZFSA melamine testing programme.

A number of supermarkets and shops have dropped Horleys simply because customers stopped buying their products. Shelf space needs to make a return especially during a recession.

Horleys will keep a low profile for a while. Some good spin doctoring will make sure they bounce back sometime down the track.

Look at Ribena. They survived some bad publicity and a $200,000 fine. Now they are advertising again and a whole new generation of consumers will buy blackcurrant fruit drink with vitamin C.

I hope Horleys give you and your sales team a pay rise for innovation Lamborghinilova, but your constant ramping of their products would be more successful a year from now. Consumers have short memories but not this short.

[Flex]

Would you be happy recommending this product?

If you are after a pure protein it's not really very good option as it has added carbs (maltodextrin) and it's only 70% protein. I don't really understand the theory behind crossfire - 6% casein per serve is only about 1.4g protein - I can't see what benefit having 1.4g of slow digested protein would actually provide. For me this is more of a misfire than a crossfire.

Are you happy recommending this product Lambolova? Since you sell Horleys products you must know a lot about sports nutrition. Whats your opinion of it?

BTW HQ308 how's the EatMe sales going? You and Orange must be their top sales reps by now.

[HQ308]

Eat Me will have to survive without me for a few months or more Flex. I have a share in a large bag of WPI.

[Lamborghinilova]

Horleys are still having a rough time riding out the consumer backlash over their association with Chinese made dairy ingredients during last year’s NZFSA melamine testing programme.

A number of supermarkets and shops have dropped Horleys simply because customers stopped buying their products. Shelf space needs to make a return especially during a recession.

Horleys will keep a low profile for a while. Some good spin doctoring will make sure they bounce back sometime down the track.

Look at Ribena. They survived some bad publicity and a $200,000 fine. Now they are advertising again and a whole new generation of consumers will buy blackcurrant fruit drink with vitamin C.

I hope Horleys give you and your sales team a pay rise for innovation Lamborghinilova, but your constant ramping of their products would be more successful a year from now. Consumers have short memories but not this short.

I am not directly associated with Horleys, but i do sell their products. flex has provided me with helpful information which i can pass onto people who wish to purchase it off me, as well as for my own information.

I have recommended people try eat me in the past, but have acknowledged i don't like it. Also in posts in the past relating to horleys i have pointed out that i sell the product, and therefore my opinion may be biased.

If you are after a pure protein it's not really very good option as it has added carbs (maltodextrin) and it's only 70% protein. I don't really understand the theory behind crossfire - 6% casein per serve is only about 1.4g protein - I can't see what benefit having 1.4g of slow digested protein would actually provide. For me this is more of a misfire than a crossfire.

Are you happy recommending this product Lambolova? Since you sell Horleys products you must know a lot about sports nutrition. Whats your opinion of it?

Yes, but if people were looking for a pure protein, i would recommend Horleys ICE if they were to purchase it from me, otherwise I would recommend they have a look at EatMe WPI or Balance WPI.

And my knowledge of sports nutrition is limited, but i don't claim to know a lot. This is a personal interest for me, and i am also interested in business, so i figured that I could learn about both by selling sports supps. Where have you acquired most of your knowledge from flex?

I was of the understanding that by adding in casein it slows down the release of the whey as well. is this statement correct, or misheard off the correct statement?

[CypressTree]

It also has one of the worst nutritional compositions i have seen in a long time:

grams Per 100g:

Protein: 60

Fat:5

Sat. Fat:3.9

Carbs:20

Sugars:11.4

Energy:1760KJ

This nutritional information for Raiseys Original SLIM is actually INCORRECT though.. The correct info is as follows.

Raiseys SLIM

grams Per 100g:

Protein: 67.5

Fat: 3.2

Sat. Fat: 2.1

Carbs: 17.8

Sugars: 13

Energy: 1530KJ

Raiseys Soy Slim

Protein 78

Fat 4.1

Sat Fat 0.4

Carbs 9.4

Sugars 1.7

Energy 1460

Sculpt

Protein 76

Fat 3.9

Sat Fat ????

Carbs 4.5

Sugars 3.1

Energy 1550

I think the winner is obvious here...

:pfft:

But seriously...theres not much in it really and going off Sculpt RRP its actually the dearest for grams protein per $....but its pretty close...

It appears that when the Raiseys Original website was created, the wrong labels (developmental ones from several years ago) were added to the nutritional info panels for nearly all our products and not the current labels with the correct info. This was a simple error and an embarrassing situation and thank you to Lambo for pointing this out so we can address this immediately. Please accept our apologies Lambo for misleading you. :oops:

Flex.....Yes, Raiseys Original is a new brand in this market... but no, Raiseys Original arent jumping on any bandwagon. We are a family business and are proudly expanding on what our business has been for 35 plus years and excited to do so, so pointing out the correct splelling (whoops) of a sweetener is a little bit petty and hardly proof enough for you to decide that we dont know what we are doing...sure... we arent website architects or professional proofreaders....but we are serious about sports nutrition and in offering a quality product at a fair price. But once again, thanks for pointing this out and im sure you will agree with me Flex that its what is INSIDE the bag thats important... :nod:

Oh...and Flex...Horleys use a Carboxy Methyl Cellulose also as their thickener....just that they call it Thickener 466...check it out...its the same thing.. Do your homework 1st!!!!

I can assure readers and posters that Raiseys Original products arent just milk powder and cocoa as suggested. We have extensive knowledge and skill within our company and something that some other companies dont have.... a genuine reason (other than profit) to produce quality.....we put our name on the product!!! This can be backed up by the athletes who choose to switch to our product. There are Olympians, future Olympians, National Champions, a top heavyweight Napier Bodybuilder, an AIR NZ NPC Fitness coach and a National World Championship Team Coach who are using and/or recommending our product. (incidentally some have switched from your brands Lambo/Flex.)

Oh...and Martha/Flex/Lambo...we would be happy to provide you with some free samples if you are brave enough to take your Horleys undies off and be a little open minded...and a little less critical of a new NZ Brand thats trying to help local athletes....or are you happy to just hit and run?????

We respect all our competitors in the market as we do on the sports field and I am not in any way rubbishing any other products. Just putting the facts straight.

[AgentOrange]

lol poor raiseys their brand has been rubished on a site where a high percentage of their potential clients are.... Looks as though its damage control time...

Can i have a sample? or is that offer only extend to flex etc?

[CypressTree]

Looks as though its damage control time...

Can i have a sample? or is that offer only extend to flex etc?

Damage control???? Damn right... of course Im going to respond to those comments. Some were totally untrue and quite disappointing. But there has been a mistake made on our website and that is not good for us and needs to be fixed asap. Our family business has ALWAYS been built on Quality and Service first.

Sure you can have a sample or two...

Go to our website and send us an email making reference to this forum and your AgentOrange name Id be happy to post you out some samples of whatever you want and answer any questions you might have...

Im not interested however, in any negative debate/rubbishing of anyone or anything through this forum.

[Android]

I had never heard of this brand before at all.

Price looks ok just want to know (can't find it anywhere on the website sorry) is your Whey Isolate ion-exchanged or cross-flow (micro) filtrated? In other words is it heat or filtered to get the Isolate, cheers.

[Lamborghinilova]

My previous comments were based on the nutritional information from the website. as this was incorrect, I suspend my comments until i can review them (unfortunately I am busy now, so I don't have time to take a proper look)

I will be requesting some samples shortly, and will post an honest review if I can find the time.

Also, flex has earlier on posted a negative comment about horleys crossfire, based on the facts. In my experienced he is very informed and unbiased.

[Flex]

Flex.....Yes, Raiseys Original is a new brand in this market... but no, Raiseys Original arent jumping on any bandwagon. We are a family business and are proudly expanding on what our business has been for 35 plus years and excited to do so, so pointing out the correct splelling (whoops) of a sweetener is a little bit petty and hardly proof enough for you to decide that we dont know what we are doing...sure... we arent website architects or professional proofreaders....but we are serious about sports nutrition and in offering a quality product at a fair price. But once again, thanks for pointing this out and im sure you will agree with me Flex that its what is INSIDE the bag thats important... :nod:

Oh...and Flex...Horleys use a Carboxy Methyl Cellulose also as their thickener....just that they call it Thickener 466...check it out...its the same thing.. Do your homework 1st!!!!

I can assure readers and posters that Raiseys Original products arent just milk powder and cocoa as suggested. We have extensive knowledge and skill within our company and something that some other companies dont have.... a genuine reason (other than profit) to produce quality.....we put our name on the product!!! This can be backed up by the athletes who choose to switch to our product. There are Olympians, future Olympians, National Champions, a top heavyweight Napier Bodybuilder, an AIR NZ NPC Fitness coach and a National World Championship Team Coach who are using and/or recommending our product. (incidentally some have switched from your brands Lambo/Flex.)

Oh...and Martha/Flex/Lambo...we would be happy to provide you with some free samples if you are brave enough to take your Horleys undies off and be a little open minded...and a little less critical of a new NZ Brand thats trying to help local athletes....or are you happy to just hit and run?????

Contrary to popular belief I've got nothing to do with Horleys or any other brand for that matter.

I don't want to get into a slanging match about who's better than who. As far as CMC and spelling of the sweetener is concerned I was merely pointing out to PT that his claim that Raiseys was all natural was incorrect.

I'm all for NZ companies making a go of it but I'll stand by my point that the range seems a little bit like jumping on the bandwagon. I'm going by the old nutrition information that used to be on your site so maybe I'm wrong, but there's nothing really all that original about any of the products. The quality of ingredients may be high but that doesn't necessarily make it a good product.

I'm not questioning your quality or integrity, I just don't understand the idea behind the range as they don't seem like products that were developed by people that actually use sports nutrition products.

[CypressTree]

I had never heard of this brand before at all.

Price looks ok just want to know (can't find it anywhere on the website sorry) is your Whey Isolate ion-exchanged or cross-flow (micro) filtrated? In other words is it heat or filtered to get the Isolate, cheers.

We,ve been on the market new this year but have been developing our products for several years.

Our whey is a combination of ultra filtered and ion exchange. We are looking at micro filtered but we chose the former for our initial product range.

but there's nothing really all that original about any of the products.

Hi Flex. Check out our Honey and Whey. Thats an original product. Unless you know otherwise? Weve developed our own technique of mixing the two. We are also developing several new products. Our "current range" is a starting point. After all we are a small family business. We do everything ourselves, from the design and manufacture of the machines/mixers(our Managing Director is also a mighty fine engineer) to the packing of the product. If you call many years of hard work and development to get to this point "jumping on the bandwagon" then thats how you see it... from your computer screen. Sports nutrition from our perspective may not just be confined to what your interest in it is perhaps.

Ive offered you free samples, the offer is still there.

I do appreciate your feedback though Flex.

[Flex]

Sports nutrition from our perspective may not just be confined to what your interest in it is perhaps.

Ive offered you free samples, the offer is still there.

Perhaps I'm not your target market. No worries about the samples.

[nzmusclemonster]