methandriol dipropionate

[OMCV6]

See my other recent post on Filybol...

Just wondering what peoples thoughts on methandriol dipropionate are.

I was going to take 80mg twice weekly.

Is it androgenic enough to use without test? or do I need to use some test with it?

[bulking]

Heres what Bill Roberts said about methandriol dipropionate:

"This substance, used in some Australian veterinary products, is to be avoided by male bodybuilders. It is highly estrogenic, and has no redeeming properties. It is a poor anabolic and the mythical "receptor-cleaning" properties that have been claimed for it are pure fantasy.

So it wont "clean" the receptors and you'll get gyno \:D/ \:D/

[OMCV6]

I read that also, but not sure if he's correct about it been an estrogen?

[bulking]

Estrogenic doesn't mean its an estrogen. It converts to one.

[musclenz]

Had to dig this out of my archives. Hope it helps.

Substance: methylandrostenediol dipropionate

Trade Names:

Andris 10 mg tab.; Chifar GR

Arbolic (o.c.) 50 mg/ml; Burgin Arden U.S.

Crestabolic (o.c.) 50 mg/ml; Nutrition U.S.

Durandrol (o.c.) 50 mg/ml; Pharmex U.S.

Hybolin (ox) 50 mg/ml; Hyrex U.S.

Methyldiol (o.c.) 2 mg tab.; Vortech U.S.

Metylandrostendiol 10 mg tab.; Polfa PL

Metylandrostendiol 25 mg tab.; Polfa PL

Novandrol 10 mg drag.; Galenika YU

Novandrol 25 mg drag.; Galenika YU

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Methandriol Dipropionate (M.D.) is a form of the water-dissolved Methandriol but it remains effective for a longer period of time. On the one hand, M.D. can be dissolved in oil for injection purposes and, on the other

hand, it is produced in tablet form since it is also effective when taken orally M.D. has a strong anabolic and androgenic component so that it is suitable for the buildup of strength and muscle mass. The effect can be

compared to a cross between Deca-Durabolin and Testosterone enanthate. Like testosterone it contributes to a gain in both strength and muscle but does not retain more water than Deca-Durabolin. The best results can

be obtained, however, if M.D. is not taken alone but in combination with another steroid. This is because M.D. is able to magnify the effects of other steroid compounds. It does this by increasingly sensitizing the

androgenic receptors of the muscle cell, allowing a higher amount of the steroid molecules of the additionally taken steroids to be absorbed by the receptors. This also explains why injectable M.D. is only available today

as a combination compound with an additional steroid substance. Injectable M.D. is only available in the Australian veterinary steroids Drive, Spectriol, Geldabol, and Filibol Forte so that procurement of the compound is difficult. The few athletes using this drug report good strength gains, a solid muscle gain, and low water retention. The combination steroids aromatize only slightly so, when taking only M.D., the use of antiestrogens is perhaps ap-propriate. The injectable form is only slightly toxic.

The usual dosage for athletes is 100 mg every 2-3 days. In Europe only the oral form of M.D. is available. Also in this case it is benefi-cial to combine M.D. with another steroid, preferably an injectable one. The normal daily dose is 40-60 mg and is usually taken in 2-3 individual doses spread over & day The tablets are usually taken for only 4-6 weeks since the effect decreases quickly, thus requiring higher dosages. They are also 17-

alpha alkylated so even a low dosage and a short intake can be damaging to the liver. Because of its androgenic effect women rarely use M.D. Possible side effects of the tablet form can be elevated levels of liver

toxins, gastrointestinal pain, acne, gynecomastia, increased aggressiveness, and high blood pressure."

[OMCV6]

cheers Muscle NZ,

Hey Muscle NZ, what do you think of me using the expired filybol, after filtering thru 0.2 micron wheel filter first to strain out any possible bacteria.

Last think I want is an infection syle abcess.

[musclenz]

Mate I think its your call. Generally oils are a better proposition than water based injectables as far as bacteria is concerned. I'm not too sure if you can deal to all bacteria with a micron filter. If you are going to risk it maybe a shallow injection using a slin pin into the lateral head of the delt.