The end of prohormones

[Cornfed]

Does anyone think phs have much of a future? It seems to me that now they have been banned in the US and most other places most people wanting to take them would simply use the real thing (ie steroids) as you risk arrest either way, and roids supposedly have greater benefits.

(BTW, I've never used steroids and my only experience with prohormones is using a brand called Stendex just before they were banned to import. I made really good gains and the only side effect was feeling really good).

[Pseudonym]

It's a good question.

My gut feeling is that PHs still have a future. There's a fairly wide-spread perception that PHs are safer to use than steroids. I've never taken steroids or PHs, so I've never done the research into whether this is true or not - and I know there are arguments both ways. But regardless, I think demand for PHs will continue because of this view.

Having said that, obviously the ban will make obtaining them harder. I know there is often a problem for steroid buyers with scammers selling fake gear - especially over the internet. Sadly, if PHs are driven underground (as seems inevitable now with the US ban), I wouldn't be surprised to see the same thing happening with PHs. :?

That's my two cents worth, anyway...

[jono]

yes i thkn its the end for phs.. phs wont survive UG .. the real deal > phs.

phs have the same sides as real gear, and are less effective.. now that they are both illegal.. would u want somthing less effective ? the only reason ppl bought them is because they were legal

[samoht]

Morining People

Prohormones

I was having a look at supplementsonline and i came across this.......

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Amount

Per Serving

% Daily

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300

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Urtica Dioica (Aqueous Ext., Aerial Parts)

120

mg

Diindolemethane (DIM)

100

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50

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Sam out.

[Growth]

I think PH's have a future. Wherever there is demand for a product there will be supply. So the US is banning them. Alot of PHs arent made in the US. Outside America other countries will continue to use them where there are no bans in place. So the product will always be out there.

[deegee]

Just noticed on a US web site for supps that Prohormones are now off the shelf and the ban is in place.

Cant see there being a continued market underground for them. The consensus on US boards would suggest that, if you are going to have to go through black market channels you may as well get the real thing.

I do however think that it will not be long beforethe industry comes up with another product that finds another loophole in US law.

[deegee]

Well it did not really take long at all, looking over a popular US web site shows that the following products have all managed to find a loop hole or two it is yet to be seen how fast the US govt moves on this one. Sme of the products are not easy to get but are being sold legaly at the moment

superdrol

phero-plex

finigenex

I imagine there are a few others too that I didnt find.

[Growth]

The price of superdrol is still around $70 USD a bottle, which i belive is only enough for a short cycle. For that price you should be looking to your local markets for alternatives.

[deegee]

Yeah I agree there, it is not on my shopping list at that price

[deegee]

Looking over a few web sites these things I think have died out, not rteally anything but a bit of old stock left. Probably for the best some of the stuff they were putting out before the updated ban were really experimental and highly hepatoxic according to many reports. Probably for the best that they have gone anyway.

This whole section on prohormones will probably be redundant as those last stocks disappear, if not now.

[Growth]

yeah got to agree with you there deegee, once stock runs out this section will only serve historical purposes. Perhaps some kind of archive forum or such

[sponge]

now all the kids will turn to steroids instead :/

[keats]

Maybe we should shut this topic now it seems these run the same risk as roids at getting stopped at customs (who of late I have had issues with), not to mention the fact they have been banned and obtaining these is harder than getting gear now. And with the last post being July this area seems well dead.