Doc's in the Know?

[Muzz]

Well, after reading the Rules n Regs, Admin have said that this site needs all the info to help peeps to make the right decisions in regards to there Health (Whats going in etc).

So I think these Questions will be fair, as well as helpful in regards to us "Newbies" finding out new info. (And hopefully I wont be given a Warning or even worse, Kicked off this site?)

PCT

In regards to Clomid, HCG n Nolva.........Im guessing some of you see a Doc for it, Correct?

Are you able to suggest a Doc?

Im in the Auckland area, so anywhere is possible to travel to.

I hope someone knows of a doc or two to see.

Some PCT sources would be good, in order to be able to start cycles Safely.

Feel free to Pm me, if you want?

Cheers Guys n Girls

Muzz

[mr natural]

doctors won't give you shit.

[trainharder]

i doubt you will find any doctor willing to prescribe those things.

best you ask elsewhere good luck

[Hone]

You have basically two choices where you can buy PCT meds.

1. On the internet, however I strongly recommend you don't go down this route due to either getting ripped off from the on line source or if you do get meds sent in the post customs nabbing them and maybe doing a door knock at your house.

2. Finding a local source (in NZ) who will be able to provide you with either pharma grade meds, UG lab meds or both. If your source of gear is half decent you should be able to get all necessary PCT meds when you get your gear.

[OMCV6]

I have not come across a very helpful doc yet... they just don't want to know... but they already know everything, they might have got 8 hrs of training on AS at med school and the rest they learned from media..

Most Docs don't give a s..t about your health when you mention you are on AS, Too many of them just want to just take your money via expensive consultation fee and think how they are going to spend it all.

Go figure.

Just request you want to have a liver function test done

specifically

i) Bilirubin levels (a good indicator of liver toxicicity)

ii) Alkaline phosphatase

Secondly get general blood lipids done

Specifically LDL ration to HDL (this will give an idea of whether cholesterol is being deposited on arterial walls)

Lastly, if you choose your meds carefully along with dosages then you probably won't need to much in the way of blood work. In my opinion, AS are really only moderately safe when taken in low to moderate doses, and some compounds are just best left on the suppliers shelves altogether. Taking the doses a professional bodybuilder would need to be successful these days just is not going to be a low risk venture

The following meds at the moderate doses will give little or no problems for most users (Males only), yet still allow most guys to obtain a pretty good quality physique

i) Nandrolone (not liver toxic) 200-400mg weekly

ii) Boldenone 200-400mg weekly

iii) Oxandrolone 10-40mg per day

iv) Testosterone esters 250mg-500mg max weekly, as you go higher you will get more side-effects.

D-bol and Oxymethelone (aka Anadrol) will probably give most users problems and for most guys who are just trying to stay in shape and maybe compete at moderate level they probably just are'nt worth the risk.

As always in life, "It is the dose that makes the poison"

[jakedamuss]

based on what your saying what are your opinions on trenbolone acetate? lol

[OMCV6]

Sorry don't have 1st hand experience...From what I have read...Generally Trenbolones are middle of the road as far as side effects go.

but it is not particulary affordable for me $/mg. I substitute with either nandrolone decanaote or boldenone Undecyclenate as my main anabolic at 200-400mg/wk.

Boldeneone is my favourite as it causes me little or no side effects

If I was going to use it Tren I would try to get my hands on the tri-ester version that has 3 esters to allow 1 inj/wk

From what I have read the acetate is a fast acting ester that requires inj 2-3 times/wk.

Tren and Nandrolones are chemically quite similar and some say tren can help with sore joints like Nandrolone esters. It is apparently not practical to use trens and nandrolone together as they are quite similar

http://www.steroidology.com/steroid-art ... etate.html

[OMCV6]

have a look at this link on Tren acetate.

The extract below was copied and pasted, now...

What I don't quite understand is if they state Tren cannot convert to DHT via the 5-alpha reductase enzyme, then how can tren cause male pattern baldness, and consequent hair loss?

I know for a fact that Neither Boldnenone or Nandrolone are able to convert to DHT, and thus neither will effect hairloss. Boldeneone converts to De-Hydro Boldeneone instead.

http://www.steroid.com/Trenbolone-Acetate.php

Trenbolone is also resistant to the 5- alpha-reductase enzyme, this enzyme reduces some steroid hormones into a more androgenic form, in trenbolones case however this does not matter, trenbolone boasts an androgenic ratio of 500, it can easily cause adverse androgenic side effects in any steroid.com members who are prone cases of hair loss, prostate enlargement, oily skin and acne have been reported. Unfortunately trenbolones potential negative side effects do not end there.

[Hone]

Everyone is different when it comes to side effects, I don't have any probs apart from a bit of water retention if I am on injectable or oral oxymeth. I always base my cycles around testerone. I would never just run a cycle of say just DECA if you do, say goodbye to your sex life.

Tren is a great steroid for building muscle some guys claim it also helps in burning fat (comes from the night sweats that some guys get while on it, soak the mattress type sweats) Tren Acetate can give you tren cough, believed to be caused by the fast ester. Both Tren Acetate and Enanthate can also cause sleep loss, mood swings etc etc.

My next cycle is Test Enanthate and Tren Enanthate.

[musclenz]

Everyone is different when it comes to side effects, I don't have any probs apart from a bit of water retention if I am on injectable or oral oxymeth. I always base my cycles around testerone. I would never just run a cycle of say just DECA if you do, say goodbye to your sex life.

Tren is a great steroid for building muscle some guys claim it also helps in burning fat (comes from the night sweats that some guys get while on it, soak the mattress type sweats) Tren Acetate can give you tren cough, believed to be caused by the fast ester. Both Tren Acetate and Enanthate can also cause sleep loss, mood swings etc etc.

My next cycle is Test Enanthate and Tren Enanthate.

Hi Hone! Hows things? There are a lot of theories on Tren Cough but I have not heard of the ester causing it. You can still get it off TrenE. You just dont want blood & Tren to meet or it can be nasty. Enjoy the wet bedsheets every night :grin:

[Hone]

Hey musclenz, things good, training going well on the sust 300. Adding cheque drops from tommorrow for 2 weeks. Yeah lots of theories about tren cough, one of them kicking around here is due to the body rapidly absorbing the tren by the acetate ester. Some guys start coughing as soon as they have injected the stuff. Interesting you say that the enanthate ester can cause it as well. I wasn't aware of this. Will let you know how I get on with it. Yeah not looking forward to the wet sheets, normally blame the girl friend for those but don't think I will get away with it this time

[matt.be]

You have basically two choices where you can buy PCT meds.

1. On the internet, however I strongly recommend you don't go down this route due to either getting ripped off from the on line source or if you do get meds sent in the post customs nabbing them and maybe doing a door knock at your house.

Agree

I've tried to bring in nolva through an indian online pharmacy and that was a no go. All I got was a letter from the min of health saying its a perscription drug and unless I can provide a copy of a perscription they'll keep it.

Got an order through a different source from some clomid and waiting to see if that'll make it through as a last ditch try.

Have had no trouble bringing in Ph/DS orals from usual places. In fact two bottles of H-drol made it through this week.