Its cutting time!!!!????

[1day]

for those who compete, im curious on a few things reguarding cutting, as i did a crap job of it for my first comp :oops: and i would like to see what all your different meathods are so i can get a better idea on what needs to be done. :grin:

soooo.........

1) what %bf do you like to be when u start to cut for a comp?

2)how long do you allow for cutting before a comp?

3)what ligit(legal) products do you find helps with the fat loss?

4)what ligit(legal) products do you find helps to drop your water closer to the comp?

so please,im all ears

[musclenz]

for those who compete, im curious on a few things reguarding cutting, as i did a crap job of it for my first comp :oops: and i would like to see what all your different meathods are so i can get a better idea on what needs to be done. :grin:

soooo.........

1) what %bf do you like to be when u start to cut for a comp?

2)how long do you allow for cutting before a comp?

3)what ligit(legal) products do you find helps with the fat loss?

4)what ligit(legal) products do you find helps to drop your water closer to the comp?

so please,im all ears

Can't comment on your ears, but your nose is a mess :pfft:

[greyghost]

for those who compete, im curious on a few things reguarding cutting, as i did a crap job of it for my first comp :oops: and i would like to see what all your different meathods are so i can get a better idea on what needs to be done. :grin:

soooo.........

1) what %bf do you like to be when u start to cut for a comp?

2)how long do you allow for cutting before a comp?

3)what ligit(legal) products do you find helps with the fat loss?

4)what ligit(legal) products do you find helps to drop your water closer to the comp?

so please,im all ears

Can't comment on your ears, but your nose is a mess :pfft:

Now, that's funny.

[weener lad]

It really does depend on where you are at, I suggest you get a good personal trainer or somebody who competes to have a good look at you and go from there.

In saying that though.

I have generally given myself about 12 weeks, during that time slowly taking out carbs and increasing the cardio. How many crabs you keep in or take out is completely dependant on how much fat/muscle you might be losing. I stand by my first comment and suggest you get somebody to help you first time so you get a good idea of how your body reacts.

As far as thermos I found Balance Thermo Ripped were good but if you can get Lipo6 they will be the go. People will either say you need them or argue that they are the devil. I say do what works for you!

Hope i didn't confuss things

[Android]

I screwed up my first show preparation as well mate. I thought I was doing everything right listening to alot of people. I would hear great things to do, all very valid and workable, people will share everything with you. If you follow any combination of them, I reckon you'll still fail and be disappointed.

Find one person, spend good time finding this one experienced person, and trust them to help you.

The thing they can offer that you can't get yourself, is independant critque of progress against your goals. You can't critique yourself...sorry I don't know you maybe you can mate :-) but my point is, until you find what works for you you can't critique yourself...that;s probably a better way to say it without ruffling feathers here.

So place your trust in someone who has 'dialed themselves in'. They will at first tell you to do what they did, but if they are any good and they notice different results they'll make changes to their advice for you.

It worked for me, and I think the more success I have the more I learn the right way to do it and so later I might not need that help anymore and will learn to dial myself into a show....maybe but even Pros go and see someone else for independent unbiased truth from their observation.

If the person you pick tells you look great anywhere up to 6 weeks out from a show I'd be suspicious you;ve got someone who just wants you to be happy. If they tell you look like shit 2 weeks from a show I'd think they're an insensitive prick.

You need harsh critiques right up to the point where you still have tome to make minor adjustments, but not past that point you don't need to hear your rear delts look silly a week out from a show it's to late to change and hearing that will distract you.

So this person should be tactful.

Hope that helps.

For fat burning I hit with 3 things, caffeine-containing ones, a CLA, and a Guggulsterone. These 3 all burn fat differently so I take them all in case I'm insensitive to one of them or my body reacts better to one. I don't know or care which one works I don't have a spare 12 weeks to try just one, then another 12 weeks to try just another one etc, who does?

[1day]

thanks guys, wot u have both said makes sence totally and i know my body will not work the same as any1 elses etc, i guess im just tryin to find out some named brands and products that i can experiment with or look into further and to find out if there are any products that are a known waste of time etc).

thanks

[Android]

thanks guys, wot u have both said makes sence totally and i know my body will not work the same as any1 elses etc, i guess im just tryin to find out some named brands and products that i can experiment with or look into further and to find out if there are any products that are a known waste of time etc).

thanks

Well keep this to yourself (he says on a public forum LOL), but I buy my 'fat burners' from Netrition.com.

Customs have never gone through the boxes and I've brought in half a dozen Hydroxycut Hardcore (not to be confused with the ones on sale in NZ), a few Syntrax Fyre (WOW), and a few others we all used to love, remember fat burners before Yohimbe was banned.

I want things that others aren't using to give me an edge over them :-)

[1day]

would it hurt to try any products now(5-6mths away from comp) to see what may or may not work? or do you need to be in full carb cut diet mode to see any real results?

[Sportsgirl]

UD 2.0

and

Stubborn Fat Solution

[Android]

would it hurt to try any products now(5-6mths away from comp) to see what may or may not work? or do you need to be in full carb cut diet mode to see any real results?

Totally depends on your goals. If your goal is to put on size then no don't stop bulking just to try a fat burner. They're not magic pills anyway and yes I think you'd have to do the calorie restriction (or at least adjust diet to what you would normally do pre-contest, and do cardio etc) to see if they really do work with what you do during your cutting phase.

Just keep growing in the meantime.

[fudoc5]

thanks guys, wot u have both said makes sence totally and i know my body will not work the same as any1 elses etc, i guess im just tryin to find out some named brands and products that i can experiment with or look into further and to find out if there are any products that are a known waste of time etc).

thanks

Well keep this to yourself (he says on a public forum LOL), but I buy my 'fat burners' from Netrition.com.

Customs have never gone through the boxes and I've brought in half a dozen Hydroxycut Hardcore (not to be confused with the ones on sale in NZ), a few Syntrax Fyre (WOW), and a few others we all used to love, remember fat burners before Yohimbe was banned.

I want things that others aren't using to give me an edge over them :-)

i've never ordered internationally b4,but do customs open and check every package that is sent internationally? or do they just check sthe suspicious looking ones?

[Optimass]

thanks guys, wot u have both said makes sence totally and i know my body will not work the same as any1 elses etc, i guess im just tryin to find out some named brands and products that i can experiment with or look into further and to find out if there are any products that are a known waste of time etc).

thanks

Well keep this to yourself (he says on a public forum LOL), but I buy my 'fat burners' from Netrition.com.

Customs have never gone through the boxes and I've brought in half a dozen Hydroxycut Hardcore (not to be confused with the ones on sale in NZ), a few Syntrax Fyre (WOW), and a few others we all used to love, remember fat burners before Yohimbe was banned.

I want things that others aren't using to give me an edge over them :-)

i've never ordered internationally b4,but do customs open and check every package that is sent internationally? or do they just check sthe suspicious looking ones?

They don't check all packages but nutrtion labels/branding as is sometimes present on the outside of packaging could be an indicator. I have ordered plenty - only been picked up once - :? but never had to give up product. (Just had to pay the duty/taxes) :evil:

[fudoc5]

oh i see,cheers for that optimass,hox rox extreme here i come :pfft: