Bodybuilding/Powerlifting on NZ

[Creatine]

NZIS have a 6 month PT course that includes 40hrs work experience and is under 3k. Friend of mine did it second half of last year and is now working as a PT.

[auck_builder]

i wish you all the best in becoming a couch

i saw that too :pfft:

be picky in where u choose to do your degree-search on here personal training qualifications

not all are created equal-including one that expects you to wear a FULL SUIT and DRESS SHOES to classes where you do practical learning :doh:

hmmmm i think i did that course! wouldnt be on the shore would it?

[auck_builder]

i did the nz collage fitness course last year. really unimpressed to be honest, the teaching is very vage, and the training style they teach is utter shit to most people i would want to train. wearing dress cloths everyday was also a shock and not explained when i payed the 5k. i still dont have a job and they have not helped at all with this as they say they would... Some could be my fault but i applyed everywhere! From what ive heard alot of people coming out of the collage have given the rest a bad rep (very bad to the point where some cant write a simple programme), so some businesses are wary of taking nzcf students on...

[soundsgood]

My old man did it last year and won the award for top student (Master Sparkle). He then went and built his own PT studio and got 60 clients within the first 6 months. He thoroughly enjoyed the course, and learnt heaps :shrug:

[auck_builder]

it suits just one personality type, loud out there outspoken bubbly (the course). there are deff pros to it but i found alot of things I didnt like...

honestly some of the learning styles where LAME, there abreviated training technique is rubbish for most people.

they teach alot of sales shit, like how to sell yourself even if u dont have jack all knowlage just apply there techniques be confident and you can train people. i dont fully agree with that. also they are VERY good at selling the course to people, its all just a business at the end of the day..

if u went in with no exp with training at all you would come out with a strange (limited) view on training & diet etc etc

[soundsgood]

I hear what your saying. I went to the awards ceremony and the level of enthusiasm was surreal. I mean who carries people onto the stage on their shoulders to receive an award :-s

But really what did you expect from a 4 month course? It is for people who know their shit already and need to know how to apply it to the real world. Sounds like you should have done a 2 year Sports science diploma at Polytech or similar

[auck_builder]

yea i should of man, im gutted i didnt do that straight out of school, but i wasnt focused enough back then, now im qualified but no one will hire me...

good on ur old man thou doing the hard yards!

[deeepsouth_nz]

I think there is defiately some quality issues there esp re the short time frame that these courses can pump out 'quality trainers'....although I have worked at tertiary level for 5 years in the past teaching health sciences to Certificate - Diploma - Bachelor level and a Certificate course is just that (usually 12 weeks).

What I think is a shame is that there is often very little recognition for those students that do go on and achieve higher academic honours - not saying that all these students will make great trainers when it comes to the practical BUT often they will have a much vaster ad more indepth range of knowledge.....the number of students I have seen finish a three year Degree only to sell shoes in Rebel Sport because gyms still only are willing to pay them a minimum rate with those less qualified...not a great job prospect or incentive for higher ed.

Coachng wise I would say that there are very few paid coaches in NZ and in alot of ways its bs because it doesnt attract the right people into the roles by keeping them a 'volunteer' status.

So there are very few positions as elite sport in NZ is very small and alot of athletes expect something for nothing - at least until you get a good enough reputation for your coaching.......

[orange]

I think there are two key drivers for this.

The first is that New Zealand has a history of amateur sport. The idea that athletes get paid, and that coaches are no longer volunteers is fairly recent here. And there just isn’t the money around to offer coaches a small fortune to train athletes in sports that offer no or little financial reward. In the past, our athletes have progressed up the ranks in amateur sports clubs and progressively coach others as volunteers. Judo is a good example.

The second is our small population. A coach won’t make a well paid living unless they are in the professional sport arena, and outside of rugby, that part of New Zealand is tiny.

The bottom line is that there are not vast numbers of well paid coaching jobs around. And coaches in those paid roles often have a successful senior playing background to walk the talk.

But that doesn’t stop heaps of kiwis paying a fortune to study for qualifications that advertise a great lifestyle, travel, fame and loads of cash. Unfortunately the reality is very different.

Caveat emptor!

[craig.j]

well each course you do will be made up of certain units or credits. you need to complete all to pass a course. if you choose to do another course you may find that some of the units or credits overlap. and if your new course believes that it is to a satisfactory level you wont need to do that part of the new course.

hope this clears things up

If I understood right, it's the same I said. As will be cheaper to do the diploma first and then the last year of bacherlor than directly the bachelor, I'll make 2 years of the diploma and then 1 year (last year) of bachelor.

Thanks and all the best!

what i was getting at is that you need to make sure beforehand if they will cross credit. otherwise you may have to repeat certain things again.

What about becoming a PE teacher? thats what i did

[thor159]

well each course you do will be made up of certain units or credits. you need to complete all to pass a course. if you choose to do another course you may find that some of the units or credits overlap. and if your new course believes that it is to a satisfactory level you wont need to do that part of the new course.

hope this clears things up

If I understood right, it's the same I said. As will be cheaper to do the diploma first and then the last year of bacherlor than directly the bachelor, I'll make 2 years of the diploma and then 1 year (last year) of bachelor.

Thanks and all the best!

what i was getting at is that you need to make sure beforehand if they will cross credit. otherwise you may have to repeat certain things again.

What about becoming a PE teacher? thats what i did

Do you mean teach on schools, work with kids and etc? Do they pay well? Here unhappily they don't give the enough value to these professionals.

[craig.j]

haha, depends on the school you can get into. I was lucky to score a job in a school thats known for its academic success, so that usually means the students that go there are going to be there to learn.... hopefully.

I have heard horror stories of 1st year teachers going into low decile schools and quitting in the first term, although don’t let that put you off. It’s a great lifestyle choice if you can tolerate kids

[thor159]

haha, depends on the school you can get into. I was lucky to score a job in a school thats known for its academic success, so that usually means the students that go there are going to be there to learn.... hopefully.

I have heard horror stories of 1st year teachers going into low decile schools and quitting in the first term, although don’t let that put you off. It’s a great lifestyle choice if you can tolerate kids

Which schools pay better there? Public or particular ones? And is better to teach kids or teenagers? Do New Zealand have sport's teams as they have in USA? Like wrestling team, football team etc...

[Dragon]

We got state funded schools and privately funded schools. Private schools charge parents big fees and offer smaller class sizes. The also pay their teachers more and mostly have better kids.

All schools are graded by the average income of the homes in their area on the 1-10 decile scale. Decile 1 schools are in poor areas and decile 10 schools in rich areas. School sports teams here are coached by teachers out of school hours and parents. They don't get paid to coach.

[Small]

All schools are graded by the average income of the homes in their area on the 1-10 decile scale. Decile 1 schools are in poor areas and decile 10 schools in rich areas.

however government gives more $$ to lower decile schools than the high, so even though their students may be achieving better academically and sportswise, lower decile schools have better facilities..

ala tamaki college

[laurasaur]

So ppl are ignoring my Q's... AUT certs, any good?

[nate225]

Unsure of course content Laura but Justin Keogh lectures there - he's a clued up cookie (PHD Kinesiology etc) and does the bizo with the iron (1st place U105 NZ Strongest Man & competative at national level Powerlifting). (He's done some good research work around PLing and injuries, as well as a heap of other stuff, for those that are interested)

Give AUT a call and talk to him Laura?

Nate

P.S. Tell him I told you to call & that I'm gonna kick him at this years NZSM!!!

[SoaringSwine]

P.S. Tell him I told you to call & that I'm gonna kick him at this years NZSM!!!

He might not be sure who Nate is. So best to refer to him as 'Nate "stoner eyes ginger" 225'.

[Old Bull]

P.S. Tell him I told you to call & that I'm gonna kick him at this years NZSM!!!

He might not be sure who Nate is. So best to refer to him as 'Nate "stoner eyes ginger" 225'.

He will love that, :pfft:

But at least he is not a Fat Stoner Eye Ginger 225 :jive:

[nate225]

P.S. Tell him I told you to call & that I'm gonna kick him at this years NZSM!!!

He might not be sure who Nate is. So best to refer to him as 'Nate "stoner eyes ginger" 225'.

LMAO - SS aren't you one of the ones ducking for cover in the House when the invite to compete in HB came up!!!!! :pfft:

I've got the Hayfever under wraps now - still trying to work out how to sort the ginger thing out tho!!

[SoaringSwine]

Had to investigate what you were talking about there. Sounds like a good event but piss poor timing. 2 weeks before the CDs . I'll think about it though...