Bodybuilding/Powerlifting on NZ

[thor159]

Hey guys, how's everything there? I hope I'm posting on the right section. I'm from Brazil and I'm planing to go to New Zealand this year and study Sports and fitness education to in the future be a couch. I would like just to ask the guys over there how the things are there. If you can give me tips to where study, where the bodybuilding/powerlifting is stronger, rugby also. And the most important... how's the work market there. At least here in Brazil it's full of professionals in this area but most of them (90%) don't know NOTHING about hardcore workout and diets for high performance. They're more for fitness, for people that start to train just in the start of summer to go to the beach with nice bodies and after this season stop to train (also that they don't train hard during this period). Bodybuilding/powerlifting is too weak here too, we just have few resistance focus. So anyone that could help me with these informations I'll be thankful.

Best brazilian regards!

[craig.j]

it all depends, are you looking at university or diploma level?

I would say mabe wellington for a rugby / bodybuilding / powerlifting focus. Are you looking at being a coach or personal trainer?

I would say that 90% of personal trainers dont train hardcore because they would put off the average joe bloggs looking at losing weight and getting healthier. Its all about meeting the clients needs.

how is the job market over here? not good im afraid, especially for personal trainers. many have lost clients as the pinch comes onto families around the country. also if you are considering becoming a 'paid' coach in New Zealand you are definatley going to need to put in the hard yards!

all the best with your decision!

[thor159]

As for foreigner students the courses are 3x or more expensive, I'm thinking about do the diploma of 2 years that if I'm not wrong is level 6 and then do 1 year more of the bachelor that's level 7. I'll pay less this way than doing directly the bachelor.

About being coach or personal trainer it depends on the payment. I don't pretend to be rich but sure I wanna have a good life. Coach would be much more interesting than personal as it's more linked with high performance than health. I'm thinking as option too do this and after study something like chiropractic or physiotherapy.

Most of personal trainers as you said seek for attend the clients interests, but at least here they don't do even it on the right way. They tell them to do crazy sets and don't understand anything. Here people that's into serious training just go to university to have the certificate and be able to work with it. It's something you'll learn more reading actual books, researchs and for sure on practic.

Did you say Wellington for study or work? First of all I musy find a good place to study. Most schools I found that offer this course are on the south island.

[Luigi]

i wish you all the best in becoming a couch

[Pseudonym]

Hello Thor. It's interesting that most of the courses you've found are in the South Island. I would have thought most would be in Auckland.

how is the job market over here? not good im afraid, especially for personal trainers. many have lost clients as the pinch comes onto families around the country.

Craig is correct when he says the job market isn't as good as it was. But that's a worldwide problem right now. The other thing to bear in mind is you're going to be studying for several years, so by the time you're ready to look for a job the situation will have changed. Hopefully for the better!

[Small]

i wish you all the best in becoming a couch

i saw that too :pfft:

be picky in where u choose to do your degree-search on here personal training qualifications

not all are created equal-including one that expects you to wear a FULL SUIT and DRESS SHOES to classes where you do practical learning :doh:

[thor159]

i wish you all the best in becoming a couch

i saw that too :pfft:

be picky in where u choose to do your degree-search on here personal training qualifications

not all are created equal-including one that expects you to wear a FULL SUIT and DRESS SHOES to classes where you do practical learning :doh:

Are you kidding man? hahah

[thor159]

In a school I saw they offer these courses:

Bachelor of Sport (Coaching)

Bachelor of Sport (Management)

Bachelor of Sport (Physical Education)

Diploma in Sport and Fitness Education

Career opportunities:

Coaching director

Fitness instructor

Physical education teacher

Sports coach

Strength and conditioning coach

And the bachelor of sports and ftiness education (coaching) has these subjects:

COMPULSORY COURSES

Course no.Course name

Level 5

SPOR5920 Introduction to Managing Sport

SPOR5921 Sport, Culture and New Zealand

SPOR5922 Introduction to Coaching Sport

SPOR5928 Applied Sport Psychology

SPOR5929 Human Anatomy for Movement

SPOR5931 Human Development for Sport

SPOR5932 Introduction to Marketing Sport

SPOR5938 Introduction to Sport and Exercise Nutrition

Level 6

SPOR6920 Coaching Pedagogy

SPOR6925 Exercise Prescription 1

SPOR6927 Skill Acquisition

SPOR6929 Exercise Physiology

SPOR6937 Sport Biomechanics

Level 7

SPOR7914 Team Leadership

SPOR7917 Athlete-Centred Coaching

SPOR7918 Advanced Coaching Studies

ELECTIVE COURSES

Course no.Course name

Level 5

MAOR5040 Mana Motuhake

Level 6

SPOR6921 Physical Education 1

SPOR6922 Outdoor Education

SPOR6923 Applied Sport and Exercise Nutrition

SPOR6924 Professional Practicum

SPOR6926 Physical Activity Programmes

SPOR6928 Exercise Psychology

SPOR6930 Sports Injuries

SPOR6931 Sport, Politics and Social Policy

SPOR6933 Sport and the Law

SPOR6934 Sport Facility Management

SPOR6939 Applied Sport Marketing

Level 7

SPOR7916 Strategic Sport Marketing

SPOR7920 Physical Education 2

SPOR7921 Exercise Prescription 2

SPOR7922 Physical Education Practice

SPOR7923 Health Education

SPOR7924 Work Based Co-Op Practicum

SPOR7926 Adapted Physical Activity

SPOR7927 Negotiated Study

SPOR7931 Strategic Sport Management

SPOR7933 Sport Event Management

[craig.j]

As for foreigner students the courses are 3x or more expensive, I'm thinking about do the diploma of 2 years that if I'm not wrong is level 6 and then do 1 year more of the bachelor that's level 7. I'll pay less this way than doing directly the bachelor.

About being coach or personal trainer it depends on the payment. I don't pretend to be rich but sure I wanna have a good life. Coach would be much more interesting than personal as it's more linked with high performance than health. I'm thinking as option too do this and after study something like chiropractic or physiotherapy.

Most of personal trainers as you said seek for attend the clients interests, but at least here they don't do even it on the right way. They tell them to do crazy sets and don't understand anything. Here people that's into serious training just go to university to have the certificate and be able to work with it. It's something you'll learn more reading actual books, researchs and for sure on practic.

Did you say Wellington for study or work? First of all I musy find a good place to study. Most schools I found that offer this course are on the south island.

to be honest you'l probably need at least a masters level of qualification to become a high performance coach (make money) or at least a decade within a sport before they would consider you as a coach worth paying.

with qualifications the other thing you may need to look at would be if you are able to cross credit papers from one place to another, which can be quite tricky when you are working through polytechs and universities. so just check around first. to be a personal trainer all you need is a 6month certificate which is piss easy to get, anything else is probably a waste of time unless it is specific to what you would want to do i.e coaching level 1, 2, 3.

I said wellington as there are several places that offer personal training qualifications, it has a strong rugby scene, it has a dedicated powerlifting gym and and has many people who can help you out in the bodybuilding circuit.

the money you make will depend on your ability to connect with your clients (wide range of people) and making a good name for yourself.

go hard!

[Small]

i wish you all the best in becoming a couch

i saw that too :pfft:

be picky in where u choose to do your degree-search on here personal training qualifications

not all are created equal-including one that expects you to wear a FULL SUIT and DRESS SHOES to classes where you do practical learning :doh:

Are you kidding man? hahah

i am not kidding.

and from a $5500 part time course, that most people do after their already 8 hour working days, many on a limited income, it seems ludicrous, not to mention ridikulously impractical! and no prior warning before you sign up and pay for your course either, you are just dropped in the news that you are expected to be dressed like this everytime you attend course-that you are expected to fork out another couple hundred dollars for a 'smart suit, dress shirt and tie, and dress shoes' to wear to "part time PT college"

idiotic.

[SoaringSwine]

i saw that too :pfft:

be picky in where u choose to do your degree-search on here personal training qualifications

not all are created equal-including one that expects you to wear a FULL SUIT and DRESS SHOES to classes where you do practical learning :doh:

Are you kidding man? hahah

i am not kidding.

and from a $5500 part time course, that most people do after their already 8 hour working days, many on a limited income, it seems ludicrous, not to mention ridikulously impractical! and no prior warning before you sign up and pay for your course either, you are just dropped in the news that you are expected to be dressed like this everytime you attend course-that you are expected to fork out another couple hundred dollars for a 'smart suit, dress shirt and tie, and dress shoes' to wear to "part time PT college"

idiotic.

You know Small is mad when she uses a size 200 full stop.

[orange]

$5500 is extremely expensive for a part time course! What’s the name of the place where you are enrolled to study?

[Small]

You know Small is mad when she uses a size 200 full stop.

this is true.

$5500 is extremely expensive for a part time course! What’s the name of the place where you are enrolled to study?

i study at auckland uni; fulltime $5250 per year

its not my course-its at NZ College of Fitness

[teamfatboy]

idiotic.

You know Small is mad when she uses a size 200 full stop.

That's not a full stop, she pulled her piece and plugged the SOB with a .45!

But seriously - that much AND a suit? Jeepers, why not splash out and do law?

[thor159]

$5500 is extremely expensive for a part time course! What’s the name of the place where you are enrolled to study?

As I said, courses for foreign students are 3x or more expensive than for New Zealand students.

Anyway I haven't choose yet a place to study but the name of this one I saw is Unitec.

[thor159]

You know Small is mad when she uses a size 200 full stop.

this is true.

$5500 is extremely expensive for a part time course! What’s the name of the place where you are enrolled to study?

i study at auckland uni; fulltime $5250 per year

its not my course-its at NZ College of Fitness

The course is full-time. They just give work permit for students that enroll to a full-time course for more than 6 months.

[thor159]

idiotic.

You know Small is mad when she uses a size 200 full stop.

That's not a full stop, she pulled her piece and plugged the SOB with a .45!

But seriously - that much AND a suit? Jeepers, why not splash out and do law?

AHAHAH I'm not understanding ANYTHING!

[thor159]

As for foreigner students the courses are 3x or more expensive, I'm thinking about do the diploma of 2 years that if I'm not wrong is level 6 and then do 1 year more of the bachelor that's level 7. I'll pay less this way than doing directly the bachelor.

About being coach or personal trainer it depends on the payment. I don't pretend to be rich but sure I wanna have a good life. Coach would be much more interesting than personal as it's more linked with high performance than health. I'm thinking as option too do this and after study something like chiropractic or physiotherapy.

Most of personal trainers as you said seek for attend the clients interests, but at least here they don't do even it on the right way. They tell them to do crazy sets and don't understand anything. Here people that's into serious training just go to university to have the certificate and be able to work with it. It's something you'll learn more reading actual books, researchs and for sure on practic.

Did you say Wellington for study or work? First of all I musy find a good place to study. Most schools I found that offer this course are on the south island.

to be honest you'l probably need at least a masters level of qualification to become a high performance coach (make money) or at least a decade within a sport before they would consider you as a coach worth paying.

with qualifications the other thing you may need to look at would be if you are able to cross credit papers from one place to another, which can be quite tricky when you are working through polytechs and universities. so just check around first. to be a personal trainer all you need is a 6month certificate which is piss easy to get, anything else is probably a waste of time unless it is specific to what you would want to do i.e coaching level 1, 2, 3.

I said wellington as there are several places that offer personal training qualifications, it has a strong rugby scene, it has a dedicated powerlifting gym and and has many people who can help you out in the bodybuilding circuit.

the money you make will depend on your ability to connect with your clients (wide range of people) and making a good name for yourself.

go hard!

Thanks for the tips man. Can you explain me better about this cross of credit papers please?

[craig.j]

well each course you do will be made up of certain units or credits. you need to complete all to pass a course. if you choose to do another course you may find that some of the units or credits overlap. and if your new course believes that it is to a satisfactory level you wont need to do that part of the new course.

hope this clears things up

[thor159]

well each course you do will be made up of certain units or credits. you need to complete all to pass a course. if you choose to do another course you may find that some of the units or credits overlap. and if your new course believes that it is to a satisfactory level you wont need to do that part of the new course.

hope this clears things up

If I understood right, it's the same I said. As will be cheaper to do the diploma first and then the last year of bacherlor than directly the bachelor, I'll make 2 years of the diploma and then 1 year (last year) of bachelor.

Thanks and all the best!

[laurasaur]

SO does anyone know a good course that is done in the evenings? Or is there no such thing

[Small]

$5500 is extremely expensive for a part time course! What’s the name of the place where you are enrolled to study?

As I said, courses for foreign students are 3x or more expensive than for New Zealand students.

Anyway I haven't choose yet a place to study but the name of this one I saw is Unitec.

You know Small is mad when she uses a size 200 full stop.

this is true.

$5500 is extremely expensive for a part time course! What’s the name of the place where you are enrolled to study?

i study at auckland uni; fulltime $5250 per year

its not my course-its at NZ College of Fitness

The course is full-time. They just give work permit for students that enroll to a full-time course for more than 6 months.

You know Small is mad when she uses a size 200 full stop.

That's not a full stop, she pulled her piece and plugged the SOB with a .45!

But seriously - that much AND a suit? Jeepers, why not splash out and do law?

AHAHAH I'm not understanding ANYTHING!

you are probably not understanding anything because none of that was AIMED at YOU

That's not a full stop, she pulled her piece and plugged the SOB with a .45!

But seriously - that much AND a suit? Jeepers, why not splash out and do law?

haha damn straight nika

yeah thats wat he said :pfft:

anyway as I was saying the place is NZ college of Fitness, boycott them becoz they appear to be arses with all their sneaky shit.

on and idc if any of them read this and come on here and try flame me be my guest.

[soundsgood]

They wear suits to show that they mean business. Why shouldn't they be proud of what they are teaching? The NZ college of fitness is a quality institution that churns out some good personal trainers. Wheres all the hate coming from Small?

[laurasaur]

lol. Making them wear a suit?? That is really weird. Seriously, if a PT ever turned up in a suit I would ask for my money back.

[Small]

They wear suits to show that they mean business. Why shouldn't they be proud of what they are teaching? The NZ college of fitness is a quality institution that churns out some good personal trainers. Wheres all the hate coming from Small?

hmmm the business of teaching personal training-that involves not only skeletal, muscular and internal structure but also some physical work! and because for a fact i knw some of the people doing these courses have wealth of knowlege, they train and compete, but need silly teeny cert to say they are then able to work in a gym fair enough, but not everyone has $5500 in a ba.c somewhere, and find it hard to come up with the $$ just to get enorlled in the course. many of these people want the cert to better themsleves, their jobs and/or their lives {includ possibly their families lives}, so dont go saying "oh they shouldnt be doing the course then" thats bs. asking them to pay an extra hmmm $100 shoes, $350 suit, $99 shirt and $70 for a tie is downright ludicrous when NO ONE knows that they are going to have to wear those kind of clothes IN THE FIRST PLACE. its not right.