DOMS recurrence in chest muscles?

[startinfromscratch]

this may or may not be a noob question, as im still (relatively) new to this, but. Why is it that every leg train gives me at least 2 days of doms, without fail, yet with other muscles, mainly chest, i struggle to get doms there. and if i do get it its usually barely noticable. example, did ten working sets in the 6-8 rep range in yesterdays chest w/out, only one with a spotter that went past failure. im ecto-meso (im pretty sure- skinny wrists arms, can drop weight easy as)

so am i needing more working sets? or go back to dbs for chest?

any suggestions? i also dont get doms in my lats, but im working on that i think thats more a form issue.

HOW 2 Kill my tits?????? :doh:

[AgentOrange]

my chest DOMS is killing me today... tryed super setting with db flys and shit?

[startinfromscratch]

na i havent, cus i usually sset with bi sets the whole workout. maybe il shuffle my split to give chest its own day.... hhmmm

[Varven]

are your shoulders and sore after chest workouts?

if so you are recruiting more of those in pushing.

ex selection and adjusting your form then will recruit more of your chest.

also remember that doms does not have to be present for growth.

[startinfromscratch]

are your shoulders and sore after chest workouts?

if so you are recruiting more of those in pushing.

ex selection and adjusting your form then will recruit more of your chest.

also remember that doms does not have to be present for growth.

yea i have had a bit of soreness in front delts after chest days, and i have one bad delt atm which is why im gonna leave the gym till monday and start my split again (legs).

[Dr.Jackal]

DOMS is not an accurate way to gauge an effective workout, although it can be satisfying.

If you want to experiance pec DOMS do 1 set of 100 machine flys after your usual training, you should use a weight where you cant get to 50reps with out a brief (1-2sec) pause and just keep pushing it out, you may need a spotter.

[Android]

this may or may not be a noob question, as im still (relatively) new to this, but. Why is it that every leg train gives me at least 2 days of doms, without fail, yet with other muscles, mainly chest, i struggle to get doms there. and if i do get it its usually barely noticable. example, did ten working sets in the 6-8 rep range in yesterdays chest w/out, only one with a spotter that went past failure. im ecto-meso (im pretty sure- skinny wrists arms, can drop weight easy as)

so am i needing more working sets? or go back to dbs for chest?

any suggestions? i also dont get doms in my lats, but im working on that i think thats more a form issue.

HOW 2 Kill my tits?????? :doh:

Hey startinfromscratch,

If by going to failure on a barbell means you can't push your arms upwards anymore it is likely your arms have gone to failure, not your chest. The chest is a huge muscle in comparison to the arms and can take way more weight and work than arms can. Bar work is for people with strong arms, not ectomorphs trust me. I'm an ecto and this advice was given to me and I left bar work for 5 years, now my chest is wicked! (scuse the lack of modesty).

The chest is a fan-shaped muscle so hit the upper, middle, lower (i don't do lower all the time), inner, and outer for a full chest workout.

Here's an observation I picked up over the years.

Doing dumbbell flyes, pec deck or cable flyes if I want to go to exhaustion it's not just a case of going until you can't do anymore reps. It's too convenient if your inner and outer pec tire evenly, they don't. (I am assuming you use flyes for both, don't have to but may as well).

So if you can't do another rep try and think which part of the chest failed, and just do half reps on the other part that isn't yet failing.

So if I'm doing pec deck I fail on inner first because I notice I can't squeeze the pads together anymore. But I can still let the pads go back and stretch my chest out and do partial reps from way back and up to half way again. You're not cheating you're working the outer chest....then you're done :-)

Scrap the bench press.

The order of Chest workout can count, presses first then flyes, and inclines first then flat (or decline).

As mentioned above high rep work will do wonders for a growth spurt (take some panadol first LOL the pain during and after should cripple your chest).

And yes DOMS isn't the only indicator of hard work, DOMS can be horrid when you have insufficient protein or glutamine as well.

All the best :-)

[startinfromscratch]

awesome guys, thanks for the advices, you fellas are bloody quick!

c my journal to see how i get on with next weeks chest!

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[Mrbig]

I can get doms in my chest for 3 days I love it its hard to work or train with but I know Im doing good cause my chest neva stops growing but I recommend FST-7 training for chest if you really want sum pain

[InZane]

this may or may not be a noob question, as im still (relatively) new to this, but. Why is it that every leg train gives me at least 2 days of doms, without fail, yet with other muscles, mainly chest, i struggle to get doms there. and if i do get it its usually barely noticable. example, did ten working sets in the 6-8 rep range in yesterdays chest w/out, only one with a spotter that went past failure. im ecto-meso (im pretty sure- skinny wrists arms, can drop weight easy as)

so am i needing more working sets? or go back to dbs for chest?

any suggestions? i also dont get doms in my lats, but im working on that i think thats more a form issue.

HOW 2 Kill my tits?????? :doh:

As previously stated, not getting DOMS doesn't mean you're not stimulating the muscle group. However there are certain things you can do to get a more effective workout, particularly by raising the intensity during the session. e.g. Lower the rest interval between sets (30-45 seconds) and the rest between exercises (1-2 minutes). Don't lock-out when doing bench. Also, 10 sets isn't a lot for volume training. I.e. I do the following on my Chest day:

-Incline Bench

-Flat Bench

-Decline Bench

-Incline Flyes

-Pec Dec

-Cable Cross overs

Each exercise is 3 sets (except the first which has a warmup set) = 18 working sets. It's all over in 45 minutes and I repeat in 7 days.

Do you train chest once or twice a week?

=iZ.

[AlBundy]

If the benchpress isn't working it's more likely you are going to narrow with your grip widen it up and you should get a good stretch through your pecs.

If your shoulder is hurting try pulling your shoulderblades together as you lower the dumbells or bar to your chest. After all that is what they want to do but cant due to your back being on the bench. This should also put your pecs in a more powerful position to push any weight.

[vegas_warrior_nz]

I am new here but I think it could be possible that you body is not letting you push your chest muscles as hard because of your injured or deltoids, I think your main muscle can only work as hard as your stabilisers can support.

[vegas_warrior_nz]

I just rememberd someone telling me that because your chest muscles are so close to your heart that DOMS isnt as likely, I dont know how valid that logic is but maybe?