Mike mencer theory

[kiwisoldier]

Has anyone actually implemented the "Mike Mencor theory" properly. If so how were the results?

Cheers

[rigger]

Ask Mr Heavy Duty who posts on here from time to time and gets all hot under the collar about heavy duty training or some such thing. Although he promotes Mike Menzters ideas with religous fervour I don't think in Mr HD's case it did much for him.

[orange]

Mencer says there is no evidence that the volume of exercise is the essential ingredient, the stimulus responsible for triggering the growth mechanism into motion. I did the two week rest, then kicked off with single sets to failure. I like to chop and change, so I didn't stick with it. I think I respond better to multiple smaller sets.

[Gym rat]

I have not heard of the Mike mencer theory up untill now is there a web site were I can read about it?

[Flex]

Mike MENTZER - not Mike Mencer.

[Varven]

Thanks Flex, it was bugging me too, but I had to wait and see if anyone bothered to correct it lol.

I am not that into Heavy Duty or whatever mike's training is, but I am experiencing gains on D.C. routine (and so have others on here).

I think you will find some principals of D.C. have similarity to Mike's stuff, i,e,:

low volume, only 1 set per bodypart (albeit its rest paused).

Higher frequency

Continuous progression on weights and reps

changing excercises every time.

and so on ...

[kiwisoldier]

Thanks Varven,

Where would i find specific D.C regimes? Is that the "Dog crapp" post i saw you write to Android? I thought it was a piss take aswell.

Cheers

[kiwisoldier]

I have not heard of the Mike mencer theory up untill now is there a web site were I can read about it?

http://www.mikementzer.com

[rigger]

Just in case any of you don't know. Although there may be a MIke Mentzer website he is no longer around as he passed away along with his brother "Ray" a few years ago.

[Big_Louie]

I may be completely wrong here but isn't heavy duty supposedly one set to failure but in reality a large number of sets with minimal rest time between sets?

For example if you're doing bench press you go all out to failure on a set, then drop some weight - do another, drop some weight - do another set set and so on...

And the rest time between sets is 10 - 15 seconds - am I correct?

[samoan_muscle]

Kind of irrelevant to the heavy duty method but Mentzer's (Mike) unorthodox approach to pre-comp dieting is pretty interesting...

Read an article once where he said that he would eat carrot cake and icecream during his dieting phases leading up to shows....basically, his theory was that it didnt matter where your calories came from, as long as you ate less than your body burnt, you would burn fat. So if you required 1200 calories per day to create a caloric deficit, those 1200 calories could come from pure table sugar if you so desired, and you would still burn fat.

[mr natural]

yeah but carrot cake and ice cream is not going to support muscle mass during dieting.

[samoan_muscle]

yeah but carrot cake and ice cream is not going to support muscle mass during dieting.

Yeah tell Mike Mentzer that...

[mr natural]

lol point taken, i guess everyone had to have there own approach that was radically different,mike's certainly was

[Varven]

Mike had his stuff logical and well laid out in the begining, towards the end it went nuts where he would sometimes train a muscle only once ever 3 weeks and other stuff like that.

[Flex]

yeah but carrot cake and ice cream is not going to support muscle mass during dieting.

Maybe not but carrot cake, icecream and shit load of roids sure will.

[mr natural]

yeah but how much ice cream can you eat a day for 2000 cals? not much. sorry flex hate to break it to ya but roids are just not that good.

[samoan_muscle]

yeah but how much ice cream can you eat a day for 2000 cals? not much. sorry flex hate to break it to ya but roids are just not that good.

Lol youre just not taking enough...2000 cals is 2000 cals.

You were referring to icecream and carrot cake preventing muscle breakdown on a calorie deficient diet - I'd agree with flex - use enough roids and you could prevent muscle catabolism whilst eating only carrot cake and icecream.

[mr natural]

while training hard?? nigga's is you crazy? how much protein would you get out of that much ice cream or carrot cake,not enough to reapair the muscles from work outs would be my guess and it would not matter how much roids ya take, they only work with a correct diet an any other theories are a myth.

[mr natural]

if your so confident about it S/M why don't you try it while your doing your 12 week deit now?i'm sure your taking enough gear to put it to the test :pfft:

[2guns]

yeah but carrot cake and ice cream is not going to support muscle mass during dieting.

Maybe not but carrot cake, icecream and shit load of roids sure will.

mmm roids a fav past time of mine

[auck_builder]

2guns u gna reply to my PMs?

[Creatine]

Where would i find specific D.C regimes? Is that the "Dog crapp" post i saw you write to Android? I thought it was a piss take aswell.

Cheers

http://www.intensemuscle.com/dogg-pound.html

[nicksmith3]

if your so confident about it S/M why don't you try it while your doing your 12 week deit now?i'm sure your taking enough gear to put it to the test :pfft:

How about you boy's take this to the PM's? :pfft: :pfft:

[samoan_muscle]

if your so confident about it S/M why don't you try it while your doing your 12 week deit now?i'm sure your taking enough gear to put it to the test :pfft:

How about you boy's take this to the PM's? :pfft: :pfft:

What??? :-s