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What does a Post Cycle "Crash" feel like?

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I run a cycle of sustonon 250 with dbol years ago with no pct.

I hit the gym one day around a week after my last shot.

Not long into my workout I got very weak a bit dizzy and turned pale white had no energy and was absolutely spent ,I had to leave the gym and go home.

The instructor gave me a funny look as I walked out the door :oops:

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Luigi Veteran member

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i havent lost any weight or libido bar 500grams and im still lean is this common for a first cycle? im beginning 2 believe what the doc said about pct....

what did the doc say?

thatwasligt wrote:he said alot of pct is hype and when your young and for the first couple of cycles you bounce back very quickly, but that pct is however important for really long cycles (all year round kinda thing) but 10-12 weeks at this age you sholdnt have to many issues. im a testament to that . one of my mates has been using for 6 or so years and never used pct and ive gone through exactly what he said..flat for a few days then good as gold.

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i havent lost any weight or libido bar 500grams and im still lean is this common for a first cycle? im beginning 2 believe what the doc said about pct....

what did the doc say?

thatwasligt wrote:he said alot of pct is hype and when your young and for the first couple of cycles you bounce back very quickly, but that pct is however important for really long cycles (all year round kinda thing) but 10-12 weeks at this age you sholdnt have to many issues. im a testament to that . one of my mates has been using for 6 or so years and never used pct and ive gone through exactly what he said..flat for a few days then good as gold.

Dont think the doc knows shit. Has he studied bloods to prove this? As most doctors dont know shit they would not know the relativities between a steroid cycle, LH, FSH and test levels. My bloods went down dramatically after cycle. After seeing a 'doctor' I was told levels would come back by themselves. I left it 2 months with no improvement whatsoever before starting hcg therapy (not recommended by my doctor). Levels came back very quickly after this. flat for "a few days" then good as gold? I dont think so.

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mr natural Senior member

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hmmm thats a tricky one, my first cycle i bounced back really quick and did not really lose anything, the few after that i did have pretty bad crashes and losses, IMO your body will hold a certain amount of muscle fairly easly gained by a light cycle, anything that is too enhanced then your natural levels won't hold it and you will lose alot of it post cycle. I think the more you do it the more damage it can do

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thatwaslight Veteran member

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hmmm thats a tricky one, my first cycle i bounced back really quick and did not really lose anything, the few after that i did have pretty bad crashes and losses, IMO your body will hold a certain amount of muscle fairly easly gained by a light cycle, anything that is too enhanced then your natural levels won't hold it and you will lose alot of it post cycle. I think the more you do it the more damage it can do

yeah i think your right mr natural.

and keats im sure what your saying has merit but atm im horny angry strong and still the same weight i was on cycle :doh: so i cant complain so even if test levels are low it dosent make much sense as the forementioned above. but hey time will tell! im going to use pct for my next cycle for sure but i think this is just beginners luck!

shortly be starting my next cycle test e/cyp 500-600mg 12-14weeks 20-40mg dbol for the first 4

so dont think ill come back as quick as the first and the doc did say it gets harder but at this age and first few u can get away with it and i can only agree with whats happened thus far.

im also confused because my mate who has been using for over 6 years has never used pct and hes fuckin HUGE and crazy strong :doh: :doh: i dont know who to believe the internet or someone whos been using for so long u see my dilemma???

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Cronus Junior member

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Horses for courses. Its like anything in bodybuilding there is no one rule that works for everyone. Some people will crash bigtime even with all the PCT in the world, others don't need it at all, most of us fall somewhere in between.

thatwaslight, you may be one of the lucky ones that comes back easy. You can listen to all the advice people give you but at the end of the day you still have to work out what works best for you as an individual.

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hey all, well I know that if i come here I can state and say without being criticised (unless i ask of course). I couldn't think of anywhere else to put this in so thought this was the best spot in the forum

well I went to the dr about 4 months ago and he took some bloods for a general work up, cholesterol, test, iron etc. and they said the test was low, real low, about 3mg/l (i think this is the units) remember the avg male has a test level of around 20-30. initially we thought it was a mistake, so last month another sample to confirm, and stil low. it now appears I may have phase 2 hypogonadtropin, I am off to another specialist to check out the pituitary and hypothalamus etc. Has anyone else had any experience with this.

http://www.dundee.ac.uk/medther/tayendo ... 0treatment

well at least now i know why i haven't been growing even though i have been working my arse off and polishing off 4000cal a day.

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keats Senior member

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This thread reminds me of a time I was on my bike and this guy in front of me slowed down all of a sudden and then turned onto the sidewalk.

He cut me off and I couldn't turn onto the sidewalk so I crashed into him.

It didn't hurt but I went flying and my bikechain got locked. I tried to pull it out but I was weak and I didn't know what I was doing and was scared I could break the bike. It was locked in really tight. This muscly dude comes along and pulls as hard as he possibly can and he gets it to come free. And my bike wasn't broke. :P

That crap had nothing to do with anything. Might be a good idea to go play with the other kiddies in the playground :crazy:

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thatwaslight Veteran member

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This thread reminds me of a time I was on my bike and this guy in front of me slowed down all of a sudden and then turned onto the sidewalk.

He cut me off and I couldn't turn onto the sidewalk so I crashed into him.

It didn't hurt but I went flying and my bikechain got locked. I tried to pull it out but I was weak and I didn't know what I was doing and was scared I could break the bike. It was locked in really tight. This muscly dude comes along and pulls as hard as he possibly can and he gets it to come free. And my bike wasn't broke. :P

f*ck off and join another forum if you dont have anything to add to this conversation. no one cares about your opinion so keep your trap shut. Go back to the playground so you can talk about how your not gay

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frogie2001 Senior member

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yeah about 4 years ago a doc back home started me on HRT, the bloods they ran started off low, so this isn't a new prob. so i guess it wasn't a cure the first time and the levels have gone back down. so we'll see what the doc says in the UK. Anyone have any ideas. once it comes to pituitary issues, i wouldn't have a clue

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mr natural Senior member

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sounds like your gonna have low levels no matter what you do, you might be better off going on permenant HRT if you want to have some degree of muscle ect.... unless you want to start a family at some stage.

HCG stimulates the testies to respond to increased LH and FSH but thats further down the testosterone axis, the real way to kick start natural levels or get the pituitary to crank out healthly levels of LH and FSH is via rGHG which is top of the testosterone axis, problem is its Extremely expensive and not really an option.

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