The One - Methyltestosterone

[nicksmith3]

Ok, so Applied Nutriceuticals have just released their latest supplement. Whether or not it will get into New Zealand is another story.. But none the less, the test subjects had some tremendous gains and i'd be right into getting my hands on some. Here's the specs for you guys,

**The One**

Name: 17a-methyl-etioallocholan-17b-ol-3-hydroxyimine

Standard: Methyltestosterone

Androgenic: 140

Anabolic: 380

Estrogenic Activity: none

Progestational Activity: none

Derivation/Analog of: Dihydrotestosterone

**For the specific compound and breakdown of The One visit this link in the Anabolic Minds forum**

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/company- ... write.html

Let me know what you guy's think of this so far...

[Luigi]

sounds like youv been researching pro-hormones quite a bit lately, how far away do you think it is until you start a cycle ?

[thatwaslight]

come over to the dark side...

[Agent]

"The One is an oral prohormone of Dihydrotestosterone (DHT), a compound that produces effects 3 to 5 times more potent than testosterone on the androgen receptor."

I think that answers if it would get into NZ or not.

It's methylated too so probably similar on the liver to many orals.

[bigred8]

"The One is an oral prohormone of Dihydrotestosterone (DHT), a compound that produces effects 3 to 5 times more potent than testosterone on the androgen receptor."

I think that answers if it would get into NZ or not.

It's methylated too so probably similar on the liver to many orals.

I don't believe that is correct Agent. Last time I checked New Zealand had a restricted substances regime in place that allowed ANYTHING to come in unless it is EXPLICITLY excluded (ie it's named as a restricted substance), specifically, or by reference ti a particular class of substance. The actual effect of the substance is not the relevant factor.

So unless our drug legislation names this substance (which it won't if it's a really new one), it should be fine.

[nicksmith3]

sounds like youv been researching pro-hormones quite a bit lately, how far away do you think it is until you start a cycle ?

come over to the dark side...

I used Norateen Heavyweight in February 08 which gave me chronic acne, where i just spent the last year on Isotane bringing my natural skin hormone levels back to normal.

So as much as i would be keen to give something stronger a go, i don't think it would be worth the side-effects.

But hey, who knows. I'll watch the results from others and see how they go..

[sponge]

you can always phone up customs and ask them if you're allowed to bring it in.

[nicksmith3]

you can always phone up customs and ask them if you're allowed to bring it in.

Untill customs adds the product to their list, it would get into the country.

[Agent]

"The One is an oral prohormone of Dihydrotestosterone (DHT), a compound that produces effects 3 to 5 times more potent than testosterone on the androgen receptor."

I think that answers if it would get into NZ or not.

It's methylated too so probably similar on the liver to many orals.

I don't believe that is correct Agent. Last time I checked New Zealand had a restricted substances regime in place that allowed ANYTHING to come in unless it is EXPLICITLY excluded (ie it's named as a restricted substance), specifically, or by reference ti a particular class of substance. The actual effect of the substance is not the relevant factor.

So unless our drug legislation names this substance (which it won't if it's a really new one), it should be fine.

I stand corrected, you may be right, it might be fine to get through customs until authorities are alerted to it. I'm sure once it is known about it'll also be banned at some stage. My comment on the effect was not related to the legal status (I had been under the impression that all prohormones were banned, hence the part in bold), just a statement in response to nicksmith asking what we thought of it. .

[nicksmith3]

"The One is an oral prohormone of Dihydrotestosterone (DHT), a compound that produces effects 3 to 5 times more potent than testosterone on the androgen receptor."

I think that answers if it would get into NZ or not.

It's methylated too so probably similar on the liver to many orals.

I don't believe that is correct Agent. Last time I checked New Zealand had a restricted substances regime in place that allowed ANYTHING to come in unless it is EXPLICITLY excluded (ie it's named as a restricted substance), specifically, or by reference ti a particular class of substance. The actual effect of the substance is not the relevant factor.

So unless our drug legislation names this substance (which it won't if it's a really new one), it should be fine.

I stand corrected, you may be right, it might be fine to get through customs until authorities are alerted to it. I'm sure once it is known about it'll also be banned at some stage. My comment on the effect was not related to the legal status (I had been under the impression that all prohormones were banned, hence the part in bold), just a statement in response to nicksmith asking what we thought of it. .

All-good Agent.

As for applied's write up on it, they are saying that if you follow their directions with intra-cycling and post-therapy, you're liver should be fine.

Definately one of the bigger releases of 2009. It makes me wonder what they will be coming up with in 2015.. :shock:

[Luigi]

you should give it a shot. just order in one bottle and it should get through customs fine

[nicksmith3]

you should give it a shot. just order in one bottle and it should get through customs fine

Did i just get a push? LOL

Catch you tonight bro

[aidangro]

it will defo be banned once customs become aware, but havoc, trenadrol, h drol are all banned, but i seem to always get them thou customs. will have to check this one out for sure

[nicksmith3]

it will defo be banned once customs become aware, but havoc, trenadrol, h drol are all banned, but i seem to always get them thou customs. will have to check this one out for sure

I agree with you. Once they find out it converts to a 'designer' once it's metabolised in the body, they will ban it. It will just be a matter of time...

As for youself, and much like alot of things. You can manage to get away with getting in 'stuff' if you're purchase is lower than $400NZD.. Don't quote me on this one, but that's the word around town.

I managed to get in LIPO6 with the yohimbine in it, pre-comp last year. Was good stuff, but certainly wasn't a good idea one night to combine that with NEOVAR, RPM, DRIVE and IGF-2 (all applied nutriceuticals products) It was a dumb mistake i won't be making again. Ie, my heart felt like it was going to explode during my training session! I got a wicked workout though!

[musclenz]

Ok, so Applied Nutriceuticals have just released their latest supplement. Whether or not it will get into New Zealand is another story.. But none the less, the test subjects had some tremendous gains and i'd be right into getting my hands on some. Here's the specs for you guys,

**The One**

Name: 17a-methyl-etioallocholan-17b-ol-3-hydroxyimine

Standard: Methyltestosterone

Androgenic: 140

Anabolic: 380

Estrogenic Activity: none

Progestational Activity: none

Derivation/Analog of: Dihydrotestosterone

**For the specific compound and breakdown of The One visit this link in the Anabolic Minds forum**

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/company- ... write.html

Let me know what you guy's think of this so far...

Nick, AN are really hyping this compound up. I have not read all the 11 page thread but I'm wondering if the compound 17a-methyl-etioallocholan-17b-ol-3-hydroxyimine is not a spinoff from the old Methyltest which I think was the first oral test developed using the 17-alpha-methyl alteration to make test orally active. The chemical structure of the old Methyltest is 17alpha-methyl-4-androstene-3-one,17b-ol . "The One" converts to the powerful 17-methyl-Dihydrotestosterone as does the original Methyltest. It was never a popular product because of its hepatoxicity & was replaced with the introduction of Dianabol. You may have a better chance of getting it in using Fedex. :wink:

[nicksmith3]

Nick, AN are really hyping this compound up. I have not read all the 11 page thread but I'm wondering if the compound 17a-methyl-etioallocholan-17b-ol-3-hydroxyimine is not a spinoff from the old Methyltest which I think was the first oral test developed using the 17-alpha-methyl alteration to make test orally active. The chemical structure of the old Methyltest is 17alpha-methyl-4-androstene-3-one,17b-ol . "The One" converts to the powerful 17-methyl-Dihydrotestosterone as does the original Methyltest. It was never a popular product because of its hepatoxicity & was replaced with the introduction of Dianabol. You may have a better chance of getting it in using Fedex. :wink:

Hmm.. I do know that what they have said is that the molecule has never been created before, and somehow they've managed to drastically lower sides with correct supplementation to boot. Their testers only found a slight increase in acne, and one found slightly sore joints. Apart from that, there was no sign of hairloss or gyno. So, so far it seems like one of the more safer compounds to use. But hey, only time will tell i guess, and i certainly won't be jumping on it anytime soon. Considering im acne prone, it would just be an unwise decision on my behalf.

Thanks for your input so far.

[Varven]

How hepatoxic is it ?

[nicksmith3]

How hepatoxic is it ?

Like any oral, it has some level of hepatoxicity. But the level is very low. If supplementing correctly, and following the directions given by AN on the Anabolic Minds forum page, you should be relatively safe. Especially compared to other PH.

[Hennie]

How hepatoxic is it ?

Like any oral, it has some level of hepatoxicity. But the level is very low. If supplementing correctly, and following the directions given by AN on the Anabolic Minds forum page, you should be relatively safe. Especially compared to other PH.

If it is a 17 Alpha Alkalyted (which it is ) then it is one of the harsh orals.

Dymethazine of I-Force is quite interesting as well, converts to two Superdrol variants but with the azine bond it converts "slower" which I-Force claim will reduce all sides, I read a while ago comments from Patrick Arnold where he was quite intrigued by this azine technology.

The one looks really promising, I would wait for some log work to be out a few months after official release if I were you.

[nicksmith3]

How hepatoxic is it ?

Like any oral, it has some level of hepatoxicity. But the level is very low. If supplementing correctly, and following the directions given by AN on the Anabolic Minds forum page, you should be relatively safe. Especially compared to other PH.

If it is a 17 Alpha Alkalyted (which it is ) then it is one of the harsh orals.

Dymethazine of I-Force is quite interesting as well, converts to two Superdrol variants but with the azine bond it converts "slower" which I-Force claim will reduce all sides, I read a while ago comments from Patrick Arnold where he was quite intrigued by this azine technology.

The one looks really promising, I would wait for some log work to be out a few months after official release if I were you.

ON CYCLE: TIPS TO MAXIMIZE GROWTH

• Take Complete Balance™ Multi-Vitamin/Multi-Mineral

o Ensures that all essential vitamins and minerals are being taken in daily

• Take Omega Essentials™ EFA/DHA at 3-5 grams per day

o Strengthens cell membranes

o Enhances insulin sensitivity

o Synergistic with the GLUT-4 translocating ability of The One

o Enhances healthy HDL/LDL profiles

• Take Bio-Mend™ Anti-Oxidant formula

o High ORAC Value

o Protects cellular membrane

o Protects transcriptional factors (mRNA and DNA)

• Milk Thistle

o Hepatoprotectant – protects liver health

• In general, maintain a healthy diet and lifestyle:

o Drink Plenty of water- at least 64 oz. per day

o Ingest at least 1 gram of protein per lb. of body weight daily

o Sleep at least 7 hours per night

o Eat lots of fruits and vegetables

o Eat lots of complex carbs

o Eat 5-6 smaller protein and carb-rich meals throughout the day

o Increase calories to at least 500 Kcal/day over your normal intake

o BCAAs and Creatine will be helpful

o Avoid alcohol and tobacco

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/company- ... write.html

Interesting stuff, idealy everyone should already be running a diet the same as this for optimal growth without an aid.. :nod:

[deegee]

Customs are really hit and miss even with things banned, I have heard many stories of banned items opened and inspected then let through, then the next day stuff not banned returned to sender. You take your chances I guess and always be prepared to loose your stuff

[Varven]

Aussie customs are allegedly stricter and they missed my Hot Rox Extreme with Yohimbine HCL which is prohibited ... (I didnt even realise it was an ingredient - but explicitly says so on the bottle!).

The opened my package, and opened bottles of ZMA (Seal was broken, they left a note)... yet they didnt touch the Hot Rox...

Im guessing in a similar manner you could try and get away with this stuff?