Minimum time till i can go on cycle again

[Luigi]

you gained 8kg on that cycle right ? im nearly into my 2nd week and iv put 4 kg on already, and you were using more gear..... id say it was your diet that was lacking, eat more, dont get on the piss, just use 500mg a week and you should grow heaps.

[mr natural]

some people need more than others to get the same gains. i've seen guys needing 1200mgs-1500mgs of test a week to get noticable gains.

[Optimass]

some people need more than others to get the same gains. i've seen guys needing 1200mgs-1500mgs of test a week to get noticable gains.

:nod: agreed. you need to work your way up ....

[thatwaslight]

yeah i think my natural test levels are pretty high as for the last 2 years ive had acne on my sholders and a few other markers that would sugest high levels so i might just need that little bit more. well see ill be going back on as soon as i can get the boys back up2 speed

[frocko]

General rule of thumb is time on + pct = time of.

10 week cycle test Enan, 2 weeks untill pct and 3 weeks pct = 15 weeks off.

But its personal choice mate.

Should really use hcg before pct mate.

Good cycle?

[keats]

previous cycle was 500mg test and 250 deca

test was 11weeks and ran the deca for 8weeks

my last shot was 4 weeks ago

it seems like my gains really started to peak in the last couple of weeks so id like to run for longer and im anxious to get back on.

apart from hcg would clomid get the fellas back up to speed?

SO your last shot was 4 weeks ago and you have used no PCT? What sort of test did you run? Depending on this, lack of use of proper PCT protocol and active half lives of esters there would be no-way your LH, FSH and natural test would have any chance to have recovered and your off time is going to need to be significantly more. Seriously mate, if your asking how much of a product you should be using you should be researching a lot more before you go back on cycle. Have a look on http://www.steroid.com get some info on different esters, active half life and PCT. There are also examples of cycles and details on how to take PCT dependant on type of product used.

[thatwaslight]

ive been though countless websites but i want to hear it from people who have actually experianced it for themselves. thats what a forums for right?... my source has been using for 5 or six years and has NEVER used ANY pct and hes fucking huge lol its been 5 weeks since my last injection and i feel a little bit flat, but strength is still great and havent lost anyweight and im still horny as lol there must be people here who have had the at least one cycle without pct?

[keats]

ive been though countless websites but i want to hear it from people who have actually experianced it for themselves. thats what a forums for right?... my source has been using for 5 or six years and has NEVER used ANY pct and hes fucking huge lol its been 5 weeks since my last injection and i feel a little bit flat, but strength is still great and havent lost anyweight and im still horny as lol there must be people here who have had the at least one cycle without pct?

Forums are to learn but if you have jumped on cycle without looking into the need for PCT not the best idea. Your source may not have used PCT but seriously its not wise and im sure almost every user would recommend you do so. Being your first cycle you may bounce back reasonabally quick but in future and for your healths sake you should def look further into it mate. Always best to be on the safe side as these are powerful drugs you are using.

Personally I have had the same scenario. I was naive and didint take PCT seriously. It cost me in the end and high estrogen low test meant I ended up pretty flat and sad. Since then I have learned a lot more respect for cycling properly. Just have a think and a look before you take the word of your souce. In the end its your own life but do consider all advice given.

:grin:

[thatwaslight]

yeah i know the standard protocol but for me its hard do you listen to whats written on the internet of some ones personal experiance? but thanks mate i think ill still go through with it anyway

[BANNER]

ive been though countless websites but i want to hear it from people who have actually experianced it for themselves. thats what a forums for right?... my source has been using for 5 or six years and has NEVER used ANY pct and hes fucking huge lol its been 5 weeks since my last injection and i feel a little bit flat, but strength is still great and havent lost anyweight and im still horny as lol there must be people here who have had the at least one cycle without pct?

I did my first cycle Test E for ten 10weeks(500mg p/wk) no pct after that. I was also doin 8 weeks of anavar and winny tabs before that cycle(40mg of each p/day) and ran the test straight after. Had a 2month break then did another test e cycle for 12 weeks then started 20 mg tamoxifen ed, 14 days after my last jab. This will be my 4th and final week on pct. Very little loss in strength. Not as horny at the mo, and the boys may have shrunk slightly but thems the breaks :pfft: :pfft:

[thatwaslight]

is it just a fact that unless you take hcg on cycle ill have rasin balls as long as im on gear hahaha

[keats]

is it just a fact that unless you take hcg on cycle ill have rasin balls as long as im on gear hahaha

Lol, yep. I have just started hcg and boys coming back now :grin:

[GreekAdonis]

is it just a fact that unless you take hcg on cycle ill have rasin balls as long as im on gear hahaha

Lol, yep. I have just started hcg and boys coming back now :grin:

Haha you guys put yourselves through a lot! Its all worth it I guess. Im happy with my cojones just the way they are :nod: