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You're going to sponsor me for my trip to Fiji, let naked women rub ointments all over my innocent body while feeding me grapes at the same time? pray:

I think the grapes have to be dipped in whey powder first but otherwise your dream is fine! :pfft:

I am quite pleased to learn that my dreams will come true - when does my Carrera GT arrive? Red would be preferable. Please make sure to put one of ExpensiveUrine's naked women in the passenger seat (if he can spare one that is) :grin:

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I think the grapes have to be dipped in whey powder first but otherwise your dream is fine! :pfft:

He did say 'bodybuilder's dream' didn't he. I stand corrected.

I am quite pleased to learn that my dreams will come true - when does my Carrera GT arrive? Red would be preferable. Please make sure to put one of ExpensiveUrine's naked women in the passenger seat (if he can spare one that is) :grin:

I'm countin' on you to give me (and my women) a ride to the airport

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I'm getting sceptical about this whole debate, which is starting to turn into farcical proportions.

On one hand we have a contingent that has had huge volumes to say on the issue, but no real 'go forward' on their part. On the other side we seem to have a fedaration that just plain ignores any attempts to garner answers in relation to a number of obvious issues that really need addressing.

Unless as 'change' says something will happen soon, I'm picking Bodybuilding as a sport will continue to die, those screaming for change will have as much credibility as a title at the NZFBB North Island champs, and the NZFBB committee will continue as they are.

I certainly hope that something will happen soon, because this is honestly getting REALLY old!

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Entry by: lisa@gofigure.co.nz - Thu Jul 28 11:41:00 NZST 2005

Re; nzfbb Pres statement. The statement will first be released through the nzfbb newsletter and then to Go Figure. This is protocol as with any release by the nzfbb. If you're a member of nzfbb then you will hear the news before go figure. Any rebuttle re release will not be tolerated in this forum.

It seems he may be making more than one statement then? Or maybe there will be just another general fob-off to the public at large.

You know what? Let the fedaration go bankrupt, then like a phoenix....

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Let's not lose the most important focus of the thread here, which is of course to discuss how our wishes can be satisfied. I probably don't qualify as a bodybuilder, but just in case mine's a private beach in the Caribbean, a squad of ~25 compliant young women (preferably voluptuous, big-boned West African and Nordic-looking European chicks with perhaps a couple of petite east-Asians thrown in for variety), a small team of researchers to find new ways for them to pleasure me and a .50 cal sniper rifle so that I can amuse myself between sessions by taking potshots at passing cruiseliners from a safe distance.

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I take it Change you are not to happy with the NZFBB and its current standings, and it seems you have a serious problem with the current president, what I would like to know from you is this, as a ex committe member what indication did you have if any of all the goings on that you mention?, the reason I ask this is I would like to know if such problems such as the plumiting dept that the NZFBB is in, is also totaly blamable on the whole committe itself or if the problem is more individualised?

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I take it Change you are not to happy with the NZFBB and its current standings, and it seems you have a serious problem with the current president, what I would like to know from you is this, as a ex committe member what indication did you have if any of all the goings on that you mention?, the reason I ask this is I would like to know if such problems such as the plumiting dept that the NZFBB is in, is also totaly blamable on the whole committe itself or if the problem is more individualised?

HARD CORE

they are to blame too since they knew about this and they didnot complain so offcourse they share the crime....

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Hard core, mark stewart lied to every one at the last nationals and he said we had 30,000 in the bank so he can justify his trips to spain and russia and lead us to beleive him but early march the snow melted and the sh*t came out thats when every one knew about this and every time we asked about the situation mark insisted that we have lots of money coming and its going to be ok ,but sure enough he couldnt deny that any more at the last agm...but yet he made sure his book keeper is not there so he didnt have to answer any of your questions on the money issue..

and know just recently there is 2 cheks been issued to him one for $4500

and another one for 4900,and no one knows why is he getting more money when the federation is broke....

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I think in this case why cant one get personal as it is persons that need to stand up and be accounted for!! The point I was getting to in asking Change if he new about the dept prior to the NZFBB AGM is if so then why didnt any god damm committe member do a damm thing about!!!, and if not then whats the use of a Committe, and thats my point right there, What is the use of a committe running the NZFBB???, when in actual fact they dont, so why have them in the first place, they only cost money to fly all over the country, hotel and feed every year!!!In reality all you need is a CEO a secritary and maybe a accoutant (if that, a good secritary and CEO should be able to handle the acounts one would think)Then all the CEO does is contracts out the desired shows(5-6) per annum to area representives whom job it is ,is to run a awesome event for that year on a share profit basis,also the CEOs job would be to promote sponcerships,organise seminars,and to grow the sport and to run the Nationals and the overseas compettitors etc, BUT for this to be done successfuly a Co-Op with NABBA and the NZFBB would have to be agreed upon, in fact it is the only real logical move to take BB into the future as both federations as ONE would be a extremly successful indentity rather than a couple of poor proforming declineing ones.

It would be easy to do with nominated shows per year feeding certain international shows,ie The NTh IS becomes a qualifier for the NABBA Universe, the Sth Is a qualifier for the Nabba worlds, all shows Qualify for the Nationals where prize money and pro status is up for grabs, the Wellingtons become the NZ Naturals fully drug tested where one qualifies for the Olympia Naturals or the IFBB worlds and the Nationals, and at Nationals time a true MR and Miss NZ are crowned per annum.

COULD BE DONE IF THE RIGHT PEOPLE GOT BEHIND IT, THE SPONCERS WANT IT, DO YOU??

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Great idea in theory, but owing to recent financial indiscretions I'd think the members would require more checks and balances than just a CEO and a secretary, particularly in relation to finances.

In regard to the fuckups at the NZFBB hrdcor, why don't you have a look at the laws that govern federations such as these, and if financial indiscretions such as the ones change alleges have occured, think seriously about the proper authorities haveing a 'look' at what has gone on. Doesn't look terribly legal to me.....

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Each Incorperated Society sets there own boundries through a Constitution, which the NZFBB has, some of the running of the NZFBB is defenitly in breach of this Constitution, but it is up to the Committe and /or its members to enforce such breaches,and unfortantly I have to admitt I think the Committe are absoultly gutless wonders whom are protecting there own personal intrests in all this , so we cant expect any thing from them !!!I mean Jean Scott is not ganna do any thing because she is meant to be getting a free trip to the worlds in Spain (dont know where the moneys coming from tho??)and she gets paid to run the CH-Ch show,Mark Vaauli and Esther Tofilau arent going to do anything because of their deal with Mark over the Polynesian Federation(which is not actualy reconised by the IFBB and is only a deal between Mark Stewart and Esther), Terry Hill is concerned but his approach is lets wait and see what happens,Allan Stubbon is not happy but has not spoken out on anything publicly, and ,Trilby Penny and Lisa Weir well they didnt even go to the AGM!! So thats the situation as I see it , I am very happy to stand and be corrected, but thats my veiws at present!!

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