Water or milk with your protein shake?

[Pumpupthejam]

I've read that mixing your protien shake with water is alot better than with milk, due to faster absorbtion. Is this correct and should I be using water every time? I ask this because I know trim milk is really good at building muscle and I drink alot of it haha. Also, the protien shake tastes like poo with water.

[Pseudonym]

The casein in milk will slow absorption, so post-workout, when you want protein as fast as possible, you should mix in water. The rest of the time, and especially before bed, use milk for a more "sustained release".

EDIT: If it tastes like poo in water, use a double serve. That's not a bad idea post-workout anyway.

[Gym rat]

I would mostley have water with my protein shake with proetin shake for breakfast and the same for a protein shake for post training.

[Truds]

I always have my shakes in water (I prefer the taste of mine in water), except at bedtime I will have it in skim milk or with a small teaspoon of natty peanut butter in it to slow absorption.

[greyghost]

Only ever use water or orange juice post workout. Ever since I cut out milk for my competition diet I've never gone back on it.

[aaa]

always water post workout and depending on goals its all good to have milk any other time

[mollswan]

i always use water cofee drinkers in the house have a bitch n moan otherwise!lol

[Pumpupthejam]

Thanks for the advice guys

[orange]

I mix with yellow top milk at morning and afternoon tea - it's free at work so i maximise my protein intake. After my workout I mix with water from the drinking fountain at the gym. And switch to milk again before bed.

[blairandkelly]

90% time water , when bulking il have milk/cream/icecream/chocolate cake/olive oil all in the blender mmmmmmmm :grin:

[severe]

I go water, only because of gas from milk... :pfft:

[Pumpupthejam]

Anyone ever added maple syrup to their protein shake? The one I buy is really high in carbs

[2guns]

u should just add sugar to yr protein shake then cheaper than maple syrup

[Pete]

I go water, only because of gas from milk... :pfft:

Ditto.

Fucking lactose intolerance. HATE.

[sponge]

u should just add sugar to yr protein shake then cheaper than maple syrup

buy a 1kg box of dextrose from the homebrew beer section of your supermarket, cheaper still

[Lamborghinilova]

If you choose the right protein powder, it actually tastes better with milk...

well, in my opinion anyway...

For example, Ice Whey tastes better in milk, but PVL Whey Maxx tastes better in water...

they are different, i know, but it was the only example i could think of...

[Lightweight]

Haha, everyone here seems to think water is go.. but everyone I've met personally has given me a look of digust when I tell them I mix whey powder with water (well I do this at breakfast, but postWO add milk or milk powder ).. I need to make more hardcore friends

And this thread is tettering on bringing up the casein vs. whey debate. I think a bit of casein (micellar as in milk) PWO can only do good... and certainly there have been ample studies to back this up.

[lazyeye]

i like milk, just for the mouthfeel of it

water is fine if no milk is around, just bung in some sugar for carbs to help the creatine

the whole fast v slow protein is blown out of proportion imo, i use casein and just take it an hour before training instead of 30min like a whey

most of the research on the timing of protein ingestion was done on FASTED people, not people who have eaten in the last 2-3hours

that being said, i always make sure my pre and post work out nutrition is dialled in regardless

[Lamborghinilova]

personally, at the moment i mix in WPI with Casein and milk, so i get 3 different release times, but i think i will change it so that i just have WPI directly after, as it is quicker, but i think it dsepends onwhen you can next have protein. studies have shown that if you only hve one shake, ity is better to sip it over the day, as opposed to having it all at one time, but you need lots of protein directly after you finish, so:

If you can have another shake shortly after (next 2 hours) then i would reccomend just WPI, but if you can't then by having Casein mixed in, you can semi drip feed your muscles...

my 2 cents

or, something like Horleys crossfire has 47% WPI, 47% WPC and 6% Casein...

That means that your mucle gets plenty of protein at different times, but it is an ideal post workout shake, as 94% is whey, with just a little casein to help prevent catabolism, and L-Glutimine for the same purpose.

[Lamborghinilova]

the whole fast v slow protein is blown out of proportion imo, i use casein and just take it an hour before training instead of 30min like a whey

most of the research on the timing of protein ingestion was done on FASTED people, not people who have eaten in the last 2-3hours

that being said, i always make sure my pre and post work out nutrition is dialled in regardless

I suppose by using casein you would avoid insulin spikes, but i think it depends on what type of exercise you are doing...

Does anybody know what the release profile for casein is? i thought it was something like 3-6 hours... or have i got it wrong....?