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[auck_builder]

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[mollswan]

GET SOME TEST IN YOU !!!

merry xmas ALL

LOL :pfft:

lol.santa has spoken op now obey!

drive safe ppl

[Optimass]

buy some porn bro ... cheaper and never gets old!

[soundsgood]

U pay for your porn optimass? :pfft:

[Optimass]

U pay for your porn optimass? :pfft:

only yhe really seedy german stuff!

[Varven]

Optimass you'r being had....

German fetish porn for free galore... you can pm me if you want... :pfft: :pfft: :pfft:

[shadowfax1]

Injected 250mgs of test enanthate into my left deltoid saturday,results so far.Depression is 90 percent cured,fatigue=gone,anxiety cured,can feel my muscles getting stronger,have not noticed an increase in sex drive so far but dont really mind,just a huge relief to finally get rid of the depression after about a year of this shit.

Some people may say its just a placebo effect,but I know different,the improvements were from chemical reactions caused by testosterone.

[Varven]

Might be placebo effect but shit if it works, good on ya.

Just make sure you dont get addicted bro... hope you dont end up injecting test all year long...

[Luigi]

test e ? that wouldnt of even kicked in yet, so it was just physcological after all

[shadowfax1]

test e ? that wouldnt of even kicked in yet, so it was just physcological after all

This is copied from medsafe.http://www.medsafe.govt.nz/Profs/datash ... potinj.htm

PRIMOTESTON® DEPOT

Testosterone enanthate 250mg/ml injection

Presentation

1 ml PRIMOTESTON DEPOT 250 mg contains 250 mg testosterone enanthate (the equivalent of about 180 mg testosterone) in clear, oily solution.

Uses

Actions

PRIMOTESTON DEPOT contains a derivative of the natural male sex hormone testosterone, testosterone enanthate as its active ingredient.

Pharmacokinetics

After intramuscular administration, testosterone enanthate becomes completely systemically available. The compound is gradually released from the depot with a half-life of about 4.5 days and is cleaved into testosterone and enanthic acid.

Maximum concentrations of testosterone of 20 ng/ml were measured 1.5 - 3 days after i.m. administration of 250 mg of testosterone enanthate to young men. Thereafter, testosterone levels in the plasma decreased with a half-life of about 4.5 days which corresponds to the release rate from depot.

Testosterone concentrations of ≥2 ng/ml were maintained for 20 days and concentrations ≥1 ng/ml for 26 days. With a dose of 250 mg testosterone enanthate, patients receive a total dose of 180 mg testosterone. Around the time where maximum serum levels are achieved, average daily doses after 1 and 2 weeks correspond to 12 and 4 mg testosterone, respectively. Within approximately 4 weeks after drug administration, testosterone is completely released from the depot.

Testosterone, which was generated by ester cleavage from testosterone enanthate, is metabolised and excreted the same way as endogenous testosterone. The enanthic acid is metabolised by β-oxidation in the same way as other aliphatic carboxylic acids. The metabolic clearance of testosterone is calculated to be 16±7 ml/min/kg and refers to hepatic and extra-hepatic metabolism of testosterone. The metabolites of testosterone are eliminated with a half-life of 7.8 days. About 90 % are excreted renally and about 10 % with the bile.

Testosterone is highly bound to serum proteins, in particular to albumin and SHBG. The absolute bioavailability of testosterone from the ester was almost complete, indicating a rapid and efficient cleavage of the ester.

Injection of 250 mg testosterone enanthate every 3 - 4 weeks will not result in any clinically relevant accumulation of testosterone in serum.

Are you saying you know better than medsafe?

[Varven]

test e ? that wouldnt of even kicked in yet, so it was just physcological after all

What he means is most people dont realize strenght and hypertrophy gains until +4 weeks on test e or thereabouts.

Hence why often ppl frontload with an oral ....

If you really want to be sure, go get your bloods tested tomorrow morning and see what you get... and then again after a week.

[shadowfax1]

test e ? that wouldnt of even kicked in yet, so it was just physcological after all

What he means is most people dont realize strenght and hypertrophy gains until +4 weeks on test e or thereabouts.

Hence why often ppl frontload with an oral ....

If you really want to be sure, go get your bloods tested tomorrow morning and see what you get... and then again after a week.

I never said I added 50kgs to my benchpress mate.

[2guns]

luigi and shadow fax u are both fucken drongos,

period.

[Varven]

I never said I added 50kgs to my benchpress mate.

Neither did I.

So who said it?

[Luigi]

luigi and shadow fax u are both fucken drongos,

period.

well your a negative asshole, so what?

[genetic freek]

luigi and shadow fax u are both fucken drongos,

period.

well your a negative asshole, so what?

Chill fellas

[auck_builder]

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[Varven]

good on you bro hope it all works out...

just on the getting addicted comment, do u think you can get hooked on test? lol its not actually addictive is it? like you dont get withdrawls and that when u come off?

Withdrawal is psychological and/or physiological.

They go through different stages.

EG: You might decide to do a couple of lines of coke and go wow I feel great/confident.

next day your body is not going to be craving a hit. However, if youre having a shit day at work you might start to think "gee it would be awesome to do a line of coke and feel uber confident again" ... that would be a psychological craving.. if it repeats it could become a psychological addiction, not physiological.

In this instance when he comes of test, since he has had a (possibly placebo) "good feeling" on it, he may crave it once more, especially because he has pre existing depression etc.

Take something like heroin on the other hand where you shoot up 2 - 3 times and something like a 95% chance you will end up with physiological addiction and your body is craving it.......

thats unlikely to be the case with test.

[auck_builder]

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[shadowfax1]

good on you bro hope it all works out...

just on the getting addicted comment, do u think you can get hooked on test? lol its not actually addictive is it? like you dont get withdrawls and that when u come off?

Withdrawal is psychological and/or physiological.

They go through different stages.

EG: You might decide to do a couple of lines of coke and go wow I feel great/confident.

next day your body is not going to be craving a hit. However, if youre having a shit day at work you might start to think "gee it would be awesome to do a line of coke and feel uber confident again" ... that would be a psychological craving.. if it repeats it could become a psychological addiction, not physiological.

In this instance when he comes of test, since he has had a (possibly placebo) "good feeling" on it, he may crave it once more, especially because he has pre existing depression etc.

Take something like heroin on the other hand where you shoot up 2 - 3 times and something like a 95% chance you will end up with physiological addiction and your body is craving it.......

thats unlikely to be the case with test.

To much intellectualization mate.If I was going to smoke some highly potent marijuana,salvia,LSD etc,things like placebo and psychological effects dont even come into play,that shit is going to get you high as a mof whether you believe it or not.

[jzz30tt]

interesting thread, will keep an eye on this

[Hennie]

Yeah interesting, I think I read all your posts.......what is your long term plans with what you have going on at current?

[jzz30tt]

hehe, funny you ask as ive been communicating with you with regards to supps and protein and what i do...a clue...you deliver my products to a school in henderson or a home address in Massey, all in west auckland.

When I have time, actually iam on hday I will post some pics and training regime in the appropriate area.

[Luigi]

hehe, funny you ask as ive been communicating with you with regards to supps and protein and what i do...a clue...you deliver my products to a school in henderson or a home address in Massey, all in west auckland.

When I have time, actually iam on hday I will post some pics and training regime in the appropriate area.

dont think he was talking to you....

[jzz30tt]

^^ woops my bad :grin:

them late nights have certainly taken a toll

carry on gentleman 8)