5x5 question

[manwithav8]

About to start Bill Starr's 5x5 and have been reading alot on it. It seems others maybe confused about how things should go which is now making me confused..

The question is should all sets be ramped to the last set which is the working weight for that exercise?

I have seen people loading the bar with the working weight and performing 5 reps for 5 sets a that same weight.

Bill Starr's programme advises to ramp ie 60 , 65, 70, 75, 80. 80kg being the working weight for that day and exercise. Instead of 80, 80, 80, 80, 80.

Can anyone shed some light please?

[SoaringSwine]

About to start Bill Starr's 5x5 and have been reading alot on it. It seems others maybe confused about how things should go which is now making me confused..

The question is should all sets be ramped to the last set which is the working weight for that exercise?

I have seen people loading the bar with the working weight and performing 5 reps for 5 sets a that same weight.

Bill Starr's programme advises to ramp ie 60 , 65, 70, 75, 80. 80kg being the working weight for that day and exercise. Instead of 80, 80, 80, 80, 80.

Can anyone shed some light please?

That's jsut how Bill Starr's work, other versions of 5x5 do straight weight. If you're just starting out all you need is that one top set. If you've used up a lot of noob gains then you'll need some more volume to see some strength and size gains.

[HQ308]

This is basically increasing your weight set to set like warming up. If your top set of 5 is 315, you might go:

135 X 5

185 X 5

225 X 5

275 X 5, and then

315 for 5 reps.

http://www.geocities.com/elitemadcow1/5 ... ar_5x5.htm

[2guns]

i tryed this for a couple of weeks once... didnt really like it.

but wat i did was do a couple of warm up sets (very light just to get blood moving 2 sets of 30 reps) then id jump straight onto the heavy stuff and crank them (same weight 5x5). its a hard method but u cant cheat yrself by going easy and best to do with sumone so they push ya and spot as i dnt think u can do it 'true' if its done by yrself with out spot.

anyone done this method? and wat did u think and wat was the duration of training like this b4 gains in strength and size slowed?

[Luigi]

i tryed this for a couple of weeks once... didnt really like it.

but wat i did was do a couple of warm up sets (very light just to get blood moving 2 sets of 30 reps) then id jump straight onto the heavy stuff and crank them (same weight 5x5). its a hard method but u cant cheat yrself by going easy and best to do with sumone so they push ya and spot as i dnt think u can do it 'true' if its done by yrself with out spot.

anyone done this method? and wat did u think and wat was the duration of training like this b4 gains in strength and size slowed?

im doing it at the moment bro so will know in a few weeks

[laurasaur]

straight 5x5 was what got me into the gym.. my squats went from 45kg to 80kg over the time of the programme.. was awesome

[Pseudonym]

Is this the one that repeats the same workout three times a week? I found that incredibly boring!

[2guns]

Is this the one that repeats the same workout three times a week? I found that incredibly boring!

duno i did mine on a 5 day split but trained 7 days so on day 6 i went back to the 1st body part.

dunno how its 'meant' to be done but i did mine like that

[boostinggtir]

Yea I've done this before with a trainer, if I recall correctly it was a great help with strength gains. You don't leave the gym feeling quite as wrecked or with a crazy pump, but over the six weeks the weight you can move specks for itself. I agree that you'd need a spotter for this program. I'm probably going to do this program again when I start bulking.

[nicksmith3]

Like what 2guns is saying, as a newbie you'll make massive strength gains very quickly. So it really doesnt matter what sort of program your using, as long as your stimulating muscle fibres enough for growth.

None the less, trying anything new is always fun, and hopefully leads to successfull gains

[2guns]

hmm am gonna train like this today with delts c how it goes again

[Luigi]

yea trained my chest yesterday like this feels f*ckin sore today so, seem to feel way more dom's iv noticed but strength seems to be going out with it so all good.