LBM gain rates

[startinfromscratch]

quick question, which im sure their are alot of opinions on.....

if diet is on target, with sufficient protein, clean carbs, total cals etc, and training hard -

how much LBM can a guy expect to put on weekly/monthly? of course ignoring the backs of supp jars

this question doesnt include 'gear', just someone taking whey, creatine and glutamine..

[two_phat]

I read in mens health mag that if you are spot on with everything that the average male grows about 0.2% muscle each day - don't know how reliable that was though

[Pete]

3-5kgs per year is the average apparently.