HCG

[keats]

Mate, have you used this protocol before? IMO, I would suggest that this is just a form of TRT & amounts to a bridge between cycles. If you are injecting even small amounts of Test you will be still suppressing the HPTA. Proviron & Masteron will do the same although their action with the AR can help to reduce estrogenic activity. Can you link me to the site that you got this information from?

Yea id like to check the site out too.

[auck_builder]

hmm

[musclenz]

hmm mabe i came across wrong... im still going off gear completly, but im using 100mg for 6 weeks then reducing from week 6 untill completely off

http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_for ... protocol_1

thats the site/forum

isnt that a standard taper?

Tapering out of a cycle is what they used to do in Arnolds day when there was no effective estrogen control or understanding of PCT as we know it. It may well still hold some merit however all the talk of how "research shows its does not suppress the HPTA'' is, I would be inclined to suggest, a load of bollocks. All you are doing is extending your cycle perhaps allowing for a softer landing. This can be more effectively done using orals &/or standard modern PCT protocols. ie Nolva & Aromasin. Hcg on cycle. Peptides to hold mass in place & for advanced users Insulin. Until you can provide the "research" to show me that normal test levels were restored using this protocol, I remain sceptical.

[auck_builder]

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[Cronus]

So your after your cycle it takes 10 weeks before you stop all AAS completly, then how long do you wait before your next cycle?

So say your cycle way 16 weeks, then your statis method for another 10 weeks, thats 26 weeks or 6months. Do you then wait how long before your next 6month cycle??

I usually run a 14 week cycle, 12 if I feel my gains are slowing. The 10 week stasis takes the total cycle and taper to 24 weeks. I have bloods done every month and I only start my next cycle once all my vitals are back to normal, this is usually about 3-4 weeks after I finish the stasis.

I have run Standard PCT's in the past and have found very little benefit, this method works for me and others I have talked to that have used it.

[mr natural]

So your after your cycle it takes 10 weeks before you stop all AAS completly, then how long do you wait before your next cycle?

So say your cycle way 16 weeks, then your statis method for another 10 weeks, thats 26 weeks or 6months. Do you then wait how long before your next 6month cycle??

I usually run a 14 week cycle, 12 if I feel my gains are slowing. The 10 week stasis takes the total cycle and taper to 24 weeks. I have bloods done every month and I only start my next cycle once all my vitals are back to normal, this is usually about 3-4 weeks after I finish the stasis.

I have run Standard PCT's in the past and have found very little benefit, this method works for me and others I have talked to that have used it.

what does your 10 week stasis consist of?

[Cronus]

what does your 10 week stasis consist of?

I haven't bothered using traditional PCT for my last three cycles. Have been using statis method instead. At the end of cycle I take 1ml (100mg) Test prop/week split into 7 daily doses for six weeks (about 14mg ED). I then drop this by 0.2ml/week for the next 4 weeks. This has worked for me better than any PCT I have tried, and have kept 90 95% of my mass and strength gains as well as full nads and no post cycle slump.

Goes like this..

Week 1-6 0.14ml ED

week7 0.11ml ED

week8 0.08 ml ED

etc...

[Bluto]

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[Bluto]

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[auck_builder]

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[mr natural]

it could be quite possible bulto, one would want to run hcg through out to keep the testies at full volume. would be an interesting study if ever done.

[Cronus]

You make a good point Bluto. As I said I get bloods done often and at the end of the stasis my natural test levels are normal so I figure everything is back on track.

I have heard of guys being on gear continuously for a couple of years or more with only short bridges between (4weeks), have used the stasis and are back to normal in the 10 week period.

Seems to work for me, I plan on taking 12 months of the gear come end of next cycle anyway so it will be a good test to see my test levels stay elevated to normal levels. Will let you all know

[mollswan]

are the odds not even worth it to order amps in?id risk it but only legit place i kno with hcg has a 200us dollar minimum order! :x

[tooeasy]

Check this out. It makes for an interesting read:

http://mesomorphosis.com/articles/scall ... nadism.htm