How Tough really is the Jesup Bar

[Old Bull]

Taken from another forum one tough bar 220kgs, Box and good Four Rules. Follow up Why you should Squat with your Mum

I review the tape and think of the many decisions that I didn't make that could have prevented this.

1.training partner who can spot.

2.training partner who can spot.

3.chains or power rack, having the catches set correctly.

4.never underestimate any weight.

OB

[diamond]

He got off easy, that could have been really nasty. Bet he will never try that on his own again.

[soundsgood]

What is the best way to spot a squat old bull? Help lift back up by holding the squatters waist or pushing up the barbell?

[frogie2001]

it's up to the individual in regards to the spot technique. I prefer either the waist or sides of the chest. but i only use a spotter for a guide and to check my form. if i fail i just let it go to the support bars and wiggle out from underneath it.

in regards to the best form for squats i read somewhere you shouldn' use a box as the impact puts excess pressure on the spine and can compress the joints etc. oh yeah that and know your limits.

[poos_n_wees]

Oooerrr.. And he wasn't wearing any shoes either Could've been verrrryyy ugly.

[Gym rat]

What a total dumb ass he wasn't wearing any shoes plus he was useing to much weight.The next time he will do box squts with that weight he will think twice and get someone to spot him.

[Old Bull]

What is the best way to spot a squat old bull? Help lift back up by holding the squatters waist or pushing up the barbell?

For a Standard Squat underneath their arms and hands up around the chest to keep them up and high as they rack.

For Boxes it is hard to spot from behind as he is trying to rock forward, and you are trying to lift him back. It is best to have 2 side spotters who follow the bar up and down.

in regards to the best form for squats i read somewhere you shouldn' use a box as the impact puts excess pressure on the spine and can compress the joints etc. oh yeah that and know your limits.

Box Squats is one of the best ways to train your Squat and Deadlift at the same time, using The Static Overcome. If you were to drop straight down then there would be a chance of that, but all box squats are lowered using the strength of your Hamstrings and Glutes. If you lower yourself and you suddenly drop the last 25-50mm or so then the hammies and glutes are not strong enough, so you take the box up higher. Any exercise that involes the back is dangerous if not done correctly, but boxes are a staple for most PLs.

On a side note most of us have all been caught out like that, there is no warning light, unless you consider that the last rep was a real struggle. :naughty:

[keats]

What a dick

[Varven]

Guilty of that happening to me, luckily at a lighter weight.

I was doing ME squats on to a box just below parallel. I did a few sets of 3 reps at 150kg, then a few 5 reps at 140kg.

I then went to 130kg... and on the 5th rep, I dont know what happened. I just couldnt move. Maybe over fatigued ? who knows.... thank god it wasnt a heavy weight.

Learnt my lesson.

OB, I have no training partners, and often no racks with proper safeties. At least squat I can ditch behind me worst case scenario.. benching is by far the worst.

I realy wish all gyms would have those angular safety things or even adjustable ones on every bench.