Gout

[Cammo]

I've been getting it (gout that is :wink: ) on and off for a few months.

First it was pretty mild but last time it crippled me for days, interrupting my training, my diet & my sanity. It's one of the most painful things I've ever experienced in my life - I'm only 32 & I don't drink.

It's a combination of being hereditary (my father gets it) & probably eating too much protein in the form of red meat and seafood.

I have to limit my red meat, cauliflower, seafood & alcohol (no problems there) intake but whey protein shouldn't be a problem.

Anyone else had any experience with gout?

Any tips?

[Luigi]

i hear it usually attacks the big toe first...

[Cammo]

Ankles & big toes mainly.

[biggurl27]

Ooh bugger yeah I thought only old geezers got that

[Progress]

Dam I thought that was only common for older people who smoke and drink a lot of beer.

Do you have much dairy? That's meant to be good for it from the looks of things - nonfat milk and yogurt in particular.

http://www.emedicinehealth.com/gout/pag ... Prevention

Theres also some interesting possible preventative measures on the wikipedia page I see... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gout#Prevention

A 2004 study suggests that animal flesh sources of purine (such as beef and seafood) greatly increase the risk of developing gout. However, high-purine vegetable sources (such as asparagus, cauliflower, spinach, and green peas) did not. Dairy products such as milk and cheese significantly reduced the chances of gout. The study followed over 40000 men over a period of 12 years, in which 1300 cases of gout were reported.

Sodium bicarbonate (baking soda) is a traditional remedy, thought to work by raising blood pH (lowering blood acidity). However, the added sodium may be inappropriate for some people.

Potassium supplements should be advantageous to treat gout. Gout can be triggered by the same agents that cause potassium losses such as fasting, surgery, and potassium losing diuretics. A potassium deficiency can increase urate levels in the blood.

Research from the University of British Columbia suggests long-term coffee consumption is associated with a lower risk of gout. Other studies extend this benefit to tea and other caffeinated foods and drinks.

[MTLKATO]

WHOA, MY OLD MAN GETS GOUT AND HE LIVES ON A HEALTHY SHEARERS DIET OF PORT ROYAL AND TUI. AND WHEN HE FINALLY EATS SOMETHING ITS NUTHIN BUT STEAK EGGS CHIPS FRY UP OR PORK BONES AND PUHA. HES A MACHINE, HARDEST FULLA IVE EVER KNOWN

[Gym rat]

I thought that as well people in there 50's or 60's got gout.

[muscles_from_russels]

Interesting. Gout is caused by a buildup of uric acid in the blood. Frequent ejaculations can decrease the level of uric acid.

[runveerun]

My husband gets gout he is 36 he was diagnosed with it when he was 33, it's the acid build up in your system to counteract it you should eat alot of lemons, squeeze some into your water bottle or make ice cubes out of lemons. Foods such as asparagus, legumes, seafood, tomatoes that cause acid are bad so you can be eating healthy yet be making the gout worse. It is a individual thing with other foods some foods will make it worse for some people but be OK for others it's a matter of keep a food diary and finding out what sets it off, red meat is also bad for it. It used to be a old mans disease but I think it's genetic. You will figure out what sets it off and avoid that!

[vickywatts]

Allopurinol is used to treat gout, high levels of uric acid in the body caused by certain cancer medications, and kidney stones. Allopurinol is in a class of medications called xanthine oxidase inhibitors.

It works by reducing the production of uric acid in the body.

High levels of uric acid may cause gout attacks or kidney stones. Allopurinol is used to prevent gout attacks, not to treat them once they occur.

[bob26]

dude i am only 27 years old and have had gout before a couple of times due to drinking binges i used to go / stay on for long periods of time. which got me asking lots of questions about it and learning a bit from my doc. his advice to me was clean up the life style and it will fix itself but if it is heridiatry you may have no option but to go onto meds for it to keep it under control.

ditch the sea food completly & also pork completly.

that should be enough to sort it out.

also if you just have a look online you will be able to find a list of things to avoid. certain fruits and vege.

how much water do you drink a day? 2L a day should be a minimum but 4 to 6 preferable, all helps in lowering the urlic acid.

if you have tried all of the above & that doesn't work then you really should go to the doc and get some pills to lower the acid content in your blood because if you let it sit to high for long periods then you will end up causing damage to your kidneys potentially which won't be cool.

[AgentOrange]

This is an old thread but yeah i have had this before. Its fucking painful i thought only old alcoholics and islanders got this lol.

It is common with Islanders due to their diet. there's a by product called purines present in protein based foods that cause it. Some proteins are higher in these purines than others. Like bob says seafood is the worst, particular things like shell fish.

What set it off for me once was a high protein diet must have had me on the brink of an attack then i ate some caviare (fish eggs) which i later found to be really high in purines.. The next day i had the most excruciating pain in my foot.

Its a form of arthritis where uric acid crystals build up in your joints and its like have shards of glass in your feet. Not pleasant at all.

I haven't had i return since (about 1.5 years ago) and i hope i never do. f*ck the gout diets they all low protein diets.. I just try to keep water up and only dable is sea food occasionally.

[Elite121]

Double post

[Elite121]

Reading "Fungas Link", by Doug .A. Kaufmann, and a couple of points were brought up?

We cannot prove that the body produces Uric Acid."So sure was D.R Costantini that he offered $1000 to anyone who could prove that the body created uric acid...as of today he is not a penny poorer"

That Uric Acid is brought upon by a most likely Fungal infection entering the body from the outside.

Studies show that the uric crystals found in patients with gout occurred days after the inflammation had already set in.

So is it really high purine meats that cause the onset of gout? I think partly so, and perhaps there is another explanation.....Sugar.......

http://www.naturalnews.com/023928_gout_risk_WHO.html

Also not sure about the side effects of medication to reduce higher levels of uric acid.....may be something to look into....and natural alternatives another option to consider....

[Dontrunwithknives]

Oh god I'm so glad I don't get this. I love seafood and eat it quite a bit :grin:

[nemesis]

Reviving an OLD thread I know! But interested if anyone else has experianced this?

I just had my first episode a couple of days ago and was told that among the criteria listed above that can bring on an attack is extreme dieting. Which can cause the body to produce uric acid as it's a by product of cell break down. As I just lost 12 kilos from not eating for the past 2 weeks and suspect that that is the main contributing reason why I had an attack. As well as the fact I drank hardly anything too while not eating. (this was not some teenage version of a crash diet for me, but a reaction to post surgery medications that made the thought of food sickening, let alone the smell).

Thought maybe this would be common amounst those with high protein diets and those who also crash diet......? That being lots of you!

At the very least I am glad I had it, so I now have another good motivator to keep hydrayted.

[majorflavazz]

get sum voltarin from chemist that will du a quik fix within cuple of hours,and drink heaps of water to help flush the system out.

yep it was eating alot of mussels for me

[crazyfacials]

for some reason I thought the topic said gunt lol