Atkins for fat loss...

[legacymad555]

After 2 weeks training and eating like a horse, I noticed my fat guts is even fatter :shock:

Either I'm eating too much or I'm carbohydrate intollerent?

So now I have reverted back to the Atkins diet which has worked well in the past for me.

The only problem is now my Creatine and Protein Powder I just bought has carbs in it

I'm abit lost but surely if I restrict my carb intake I will lose weight.

Please help, I hate my fat guts

[poos_n_wees]

What did your diet look like?

What kind of protein powder do you have? If its only got minimal carbs, then you should be OK with it, even on the atkins. I personally wouldn't worry about the creatine either.. the benefits of using the 2 of them (eg. convenient/cheap protein, ability to lift more in the gym etc) imo, far outweigh the negatives of having a few extra grams of carbs.

I'm abit lost but surely if I restrict my carb intake I will lose weight.

:nod: thats one way to do it.

What does your Atkins diet look like?

[deeepsouth_nz]

Atkins Diet is a have - if you know the story, he died of heart disease from his own diet and his widow got all upset when they wanted to do the autopsy and release it to the media so tarnishing the diet empire he has created.

I guess it works fine however if you want to look skinny in an early grave with clogged arteries....

:shock:

There are much better ways to lose weight than resorting to Atkins!

:nod:

ds

[muscles_from_russels]

After 2 weeks training and eating like a horse, I noticed my fat guts is even fatter :shock:

Either I'm eating too much or I'm carbohydrate intollerent?

So now I have reverted back to the Atkins diet which has worked well in the past for me.

The only problem is now my Creatine and Protein Powder I just bought has carbs in it

I'm abit lost but surely if I restrict my carb intake I will lose weight.

Please help, I hate my fat guts

Atkins is great for fat loss. I've knocked off five inches off my waist and put on a lot of muscle following low carb. I use Balance creatine monohydrate which has no carbs and Red 8 protein powder which is low carb. You can get Red 8 from Health 2000 stores and some chemists.

[legacymad555]

Ok I just did some research on the web.

I bought a 4kg Megapro protein powder x2 (8kg total) from ebody nz.

Each serve has 33 grams which is exactly 2 level scoops of the scooper provided with MEGAPRO, For each 33 grams you get 26 grams of protein, 3.6 grams of carbohydrates and 1 gram of fat.

To me that is some high class protein without the carb fillers.

The Atkins diet which I followed with great success consisted of the following:

Any low carb/sugar foods.

20grams of carbs per day or less.

All meats, chicken, turkey, fish etc

Lettuce, tomatoes, celery, some nuts

There is more, but so long as you keep to under 20grms of carbs a day, fat loss will continue.

[modernvalkyrie]

Is it a fat guts as in body fat, or is it bloating....? did you gain in any other body part or just the stomach I don't think 20g of carbs a day is a good idea for a guy... It takes about 50g just to keep the brain running optimally...

I think there are a few other ways you could probably address your nutrition - long term atkins will wreck your body. What was your diet when you were 'eating like a horse'. What were your sources of carbs when eating like that?

[legacymad555]

I have gained overall muscle which is great.

But just these last few days I have gone off the pasta and hooked into the multi grain bread.

6am Rolled oats

8am Banana & protein snack

10am 3 sausages & 6 pieces of bread

1230pm 6 pieces of bread with bacon and egg

230pm 2 yougurts

5pm tuna and bread before training

7pm dinner, more protein and carbs

9pm small snack before bed

Maybe I have just been eating too much and not training hard enough.

[goinhard]

Brain glucose issues wont be a problem after body has switched into ketosis, i would follow a cyclical ketogenic diet over the atkins.

[fudoc5]

i think if you want to do atkins,make it short term to avoid further muscle loss

[poos_n_wees]

Brain glucose issues wont be a problem after body has switched into ketosis, i would follow a cyclical ketogenic diet over the atkins.

:ditto: for the sake of my sanity lol. But there are lots of people who follow a keto diet long term with great success :nod:

Maybe I have just been eating too much and not training hard enough.

I'd hazard a guess that you're eating too much is all.

You could always try a targeted keto diet where all your carbs are centred around your training only (iirc its something like 25-50g before and after training.) This'd prolly be good for you seeing as you wanna get in the creatinez and whatnot, and for the rest of the day you eat what you'd normally eat on the diet.

[legacymad555]

Atkins Diet is a have - if you know the story, he died of heart disease from his own diet and his widow got all upset when they wanted to do the autopsy and release it to the media so tarnishing the diet empire he has created.

I guess it works fine however if you want to look skinny in an early grave with clogged arteries....

:shock:

There are much better ways to lose weight than resorting to Atkins!

:nod:

ds

In 2000, Dr. Atkins developed cardiomyopathy, an incurable heart condition which has quite a few different causes. His was thought to be from a viral illness, and his physician stated at the time that there was no evidence that his diet contributed to the condition. His coronary arteries were reported to have been checked at that time and found to be free of blockages.

Cardiomyopathy makes it more likely that a person will have a cardiac arrest (heart stopping), which happened to him two years later. Again, the cardiac arrest was not thought to be diet related. His cardiologist stated that (other than the cardiomyopathy), Atkins had "an extraordinarily healthy cardiovascular system".

The dude was 72!!! I think that is a good innings don't you?

[legacymad555]

i think if you want to do atkins,make it short term to avoid further muscle loss

How can I lose muscle when my body is burning fat for energy, and consuming so much protein? Really.... I don't understand.

[witchazel]

wow seems like a lot of bread, are you sure you aren't gluten intolerant and that's whats giving you the fat stomach??

Why not try rice instead of bread...

[teamfatboy]

I think that 'Atkins' has its flaws, and that truly 20g of carbs per day is too little, altho it's obviously dependent on gender, age, weight, workload and other factors.

Witchhazel's point is well made, you could try brown or basmati rice, apples, or other sources of carbs than just bread or pasta. Poos-n-wees's point about carb timing is also a very valid one, as you could target the carb intake around workouts, and also avoid carbs late at night.

I thought there was an awful lot of bread in that sample diet you posted - did you check the food label on the bread to establish how many net carbs per serving (two slices)...

I didn't recall seeing an indication of your training split/ timings, amount of cardio?

[weener lad]

I have gained overall muscle which is great.

But just these last few days I have gone off the pasta and hooked into the multi grain bread.

6am Rolled oats

8am Banana & protein snack

10am 3 sausages & 6 pieces of bread

1230pm 6 pieces of bread with bacon and egg

230pm 2 yougurts

5pm tuna and bread before training

7pm dinner, more protein and carbs

9pm small snack before bed

Maybe I have just been eating too much and not training hard enough.

I wont go into the Atkins diet BUT please knock out all that bread! 12 pieces of bread a day, will not be helping in anyway.

[auck_builder]

lol crack up how much bread ur eating, and sausages! wtf? our diet can contain carbs and u can still loose wieght. why not have brown rice or kumera ? and chicken or tuna instead of sausages?

[legacymad555]

lol crack up how much bread ur eating, and sausages! wtf? our diet can contain carbs and u can still loose wieght. why not have brown rice or kumera ? and chicken or tuna instead of sausages?

I have been having pasta and tuna, but I ate so much of it I run out.

The multigrain bread I was eating has got 3.4g of protein per slice, so I thought it was all good.

[auck_builder]

if you want to look like big ronnie i advise u to talk to a pro bb'r or a dietician and work it out to a key exactly how much , when , what to eat as nutrition is really important

[disasterpiece]

6 pieces of bread WTF

[greyghost]

Dude, processed food like sausages and bacon isn't helping. Replace that with chicken, steak or fish and chuck in a couple cups veges.

[Pete]

We need to look at WHY you want to do Atkins specifically. You're trying to find excuses to do something that is not ideal. It's just unnecessary to put your body through that.

Therefore, follow this:

In the simplest form: calorie deficit.

Add to that, a minimum daily protein intake: aim for 1.5-2gms protein per day for each kg of body weight. So a 75kg person aims for 112.5-150gms/day. I'd aim for closer to 2gm/kg when cutting.

Once you've worked out how many calories you have left, use up those calories with good carbs like rolled oats and brown rice as well as the lower-carb and nutrient rich veges like broccoli and perhaps some dairy (yoghurt).

[Cammo]

I have gained overall muscle which is great.

But just these last few days I have gone off the pasta and hooked into the multi grain bread.

6am Rolled oats

8am Banana & protein snack

10am 3 sausages & 6 pieces of bread

1230pm 6 pieces of bread with bacon and egg

230pm 2 yougurts

5pm tuna and bread before training

7pm dinner, more protein and carbs

9pm small snack before bed

Maybe I have just been eating too much and not training hard enough.

Whole grain pasta, rice, spuds, kumera .... all better for you than bread - even wholemeal bread. That shit's still processed & got sugar in it.

Sausages = eyelids, lips & arseholes scraped off the meatworks floor - eat something unprocessed like chicken breast, turkey or lean beef.

Bacon = loaded with fat - most pork is unless it's trim pork.

Yogurt .... is this actual yoghurt or dairy food (chocolate sugary goodness :naughty: )?

Take a cleaner approach to your diet & do some cardio but don't bother with the Atkins.

It's only been 2 weeks .... lol

[Pete]

Let's look at and work with what you already do.

I'd move from 8 meals down to 6, for simplicity.

1. Add protein to your 6am oats.

2. Push your 8am out to 8.30 or 9am

3. Give yourself another 2.5-3 hrs before lunch. If you want to ease away from the bread rather than going cold-turkey, have TWO slices of Vogels with 150gm CHICKEN or TUNA and salad. Brown rice is preferable.

4. Not sure what to do for afternoon tea with your current regime, but you want a portion of protein + something healthy like some almonds or an apple or similar.

5. Pre-workout just have a protein shake.

6. Dinner - chicken, steak, fish, etc, + veges + brown rice

7. Before bed, perhaps protein powder mixed with yoghurt

6am Rolled oats

8am Banana & protein snack

10am 3 sausages & 6 pieces of bread

1230pm 6 pieces of bread with bacon and egg

230pm 2 yougurts

5pm tuna and bread before training

7pm dinner, more protein and carbs

9pm small snack before bed

[blairandkelly]

below is a sample of a keto diet from a well respected australian BB ,

Meal 1 : 15grams WPI

15gram Ca Casein

1 whole egg

5 egg whites

1 medium size cheese

1 cup raw almonds

Preworkout : 20grams Bioflex biocharge ( dissolved in 500ml water )

5grams EAA

5gram l -glutamine

5gram l-arginine

intraworkout : 20grams Bioflex Recovery X ( dissolved in 2L water )

3grams Beta Cel electrolytes

Postworkout : 20grams BCAA

10grams l -glutamine

45 minutes later : 15gram WPI

15gram Ca Casein

Meal 2 : 300gram beef

1 tablespoon natural peanut butter

Meal 3 : 300gram chicken

1 cup raw almonds

Meal 4 : 300gram tuna

1/2 tablespoon mayonnaise

1/2 tablespoon mac nut oil

Meal 5 : 300gram beef

1 medium serving spinach / broccoli

1 tablespoon mac nut oil

Supplements at Meal 1 , 3 and 5 : 100mg Cq10

2000mg Vit C

6000mg Omega 3 ,6,9

1000mg Vit E

Complex Vit B

Multi mineral supplement

drinking between 8 - 10 litres of water per day.each 2 litres of water contains 5 grams EAA and 2.5grams l-arginine

[Small]

BandK wat is one medium sized cheese?