MIADA WHAT A JOKE DALE SHEPARD AHAHHAHAHA

[Gym rat]

I would not be all that surprised if this issue breaks out into the media.

[mr natural]

i very much doubt it

[Ben]

y should a supplement provider be clean?

he has just as much right as anyone else to use

Fair enough comment as long as he doesn't portray that he and his company are clean and all their benefits are from their supplements. Is this what dale is doing by running this competition of his?

This is also how Dale is trying to belittle BK's supplements, by hinting at BK still using. BK was fu*k#d either way damned if he did (Playing into Miada's hands and them reaping the benefit) Damned if he doesn't (Call him out on using and denying it)

[Small]

and another thing those athletes on yr site who u sponser arent all natural.... watta load of fucken horse shit!!

LOL!! one of yr sponsered athletes even said wat gear they were using on this site! how ironic!

yeah! fkn aye too true!!

good 'role models' u got there :roll:

[Marcus]

Guys remember to keep your comments constructive. I would like to see this thread remain open so please keep it on topic otherwise it will be locked.

[2guns]

and another thing those athletes on yr site who u sponser arent all natural.... watta load of fucken horse shit!!

LOL!! one of yr sponsered athletes even said wat gear they were using on this site! how ironic!

yeah! fkn aye too true!!

good 'role models' u got there :roll:

i didnt mean to make a big deal of it, was just making a point to dale.

[Dale]

and another thing those athletes on yr site who u sponser arent all natural.... watta load of fucken horse shit!!

LOL!! one of yr sponsered athletes even said wat gear they were using on this site! how ironic!

yeah! fkn aye too true!!

good 'role models' u got there :roll:

Name the athlete you say is using drugs and they will no longer be sponsored by Miada.

Ben, are you suggesting I use steroids in an earlier thread or performance enhancing drugs like 2GUNS has in this thread already (and yes 2GUNS it does appear it will be necessary as you have not taken our warnings serious enough).

I have blood test results and have always been willing to drug test anytime, anywhere, anyplace ever sinjce starting the supplement boss challenge. I have never tested positive for steroids or other performance enhancing drugs and neither do I have any convictions for using steroids. I have never sold or distributed steroids. I have never supplied steroids to any individual or been convicted of supplying any drugs of any nature to any individual. 2GUNS made an earlier statement on this site a while back as you most know that I sold steroids and used the profits to fund my own personal use. That statement is false in its entirety. He has now gone on to say I am still a current user. Repeatedly makes statements about Miada products not containing what they say. All false in their entirety.

Why dont you put together a little committee of say 5 and then randomly come up with a date in your mind say 2 times a year - any date, anytime and we will organise it with the Drug Testing Agency that when your chairperson provides my name, address and details they will turn up on those dates and randomly drug test me. Miada will pay for it! Just put together your 5 members and you can all PM each other and come up with a random date. Your chairperson can then liase with the Drug Testing Agency. I will deposit in their account the funds required for the testing. Then they just turn up whenever you advise them to do so. ALL PAID FOR - COMPLETELY RANDOM - YOU HAVE FULL CONTROL.

I am also joining the NZ Powerlifting Federation next week, who have both in and out of competition drug testing.

That's my offer. But yes 2GUNS, here we go again only with more ammo this time and even if you have no money, you force me to do something.

[2guns]

y should a supplement provider be clean?

he has just as much right as anyone else to use

Fair enough comment as long as he doesn't portray that he and his company are clean and all their benefits are from their supplements.

how has he portrayed it?

its just advertising at the end of the day.... and if u think u know better then good for u and dnt buy the suplements

[2guns]

I have never tested positive for steroids or other performance enhancing drugs and neither do I have any convictions for using steroids. I have never sold or distributed steroids. I have never supplied steroids to any individual or been convicted of supplying any drugs of any nature to any individual.

neither have i...... wats yr point?

[2guns]

That's my offer. But yes 2GUNS, here we go again only with more ammo this time and even if you have no money, you force me to do something.

wat did i say this time?

and yep great lets go to court! i dnt give a f*ck, it wont cost me anything lol

[Ben]

y should a supplement provider be clean?

he has just as much right as anyone else to use

Fair enough comment as long as he doesn't portray that he and his company are clean and all their benefits are from their supplements.

how has he portrayed it?

I was speaking hypothertically about supplement providers. Again you have a fair enough comment the buyer should be wise enough to know the difference between advertising and reality. This stuff goes on all the time on late night T.V infomercials. "Caveat Emptor"

[Luigi]

well this is certainly one subject that people seem to be very irrate about, quite a few funny comments

and to dale.... even if you did get tested and were clean blah blah people still arnt gonna like you and will still think you have used in the past so the whole idea is just pointless and a waste of time.

[2guns]

ben,

its a fair playing field, dales just sour bout it for some reason.

its like greg murphy endorsing an engine oil and ppl buying it then being disapointed ther car dont go as fast as his lol its just stupid, but its advertising and theres nothing wrong with it

its not as if dale is fully honest about the results u can expect from his products anyways

[Ben]

ben,

its a fair playing field, dales just sour bout it for some reason.

its like greg murphy endorsing an engine oil and ppl buying it then being disapointed ther car dont go as fast as his lol its just stupid, but its advertising and theres nothing wrong with it

I agree, I realise I got into something that was totally personal and more emotional than i thought.

Advertisers will use anything to sell a product, and it is up to the buyer to do their own research and use their own common sense when buying products of any nature. Just look at Ribena!!

My last post on this topic! :nod:

[Luigi]

ben,

its a fair playing field, dales just sour bout it for some reason.

its like greg murphy endorsing an engine oil and ppl buying it then being disapointed ther car dont go as fast as his lol its just stupid, but its advertising and theres nothing wrong with it

I agree, I realise I got into something that was totally personal and more emotional than i thought.

Advertisers will use anything to sell a product, and it is up to the buyer to do their own research and use their own common sense when buying products of any nature. Just look at Ribena!!

My last post on this topic! :nod:

yea agreed but as mr natural said when your first starting you get sucked into the hype of products but yea its advertising and thats what it does but eventually the good products do stand out and for good reason, which is probably why i dont know anyone who uses miada products

[keats]

Taken from the Miada site

Justin has sought solice from members of websites that promote the use of steroids and other performance enhancing drugs

What a toss. Dale you like to slander (without proof) then you get your g string in a twist when others talk about you? I think this is very poor business and you are showing signs of 'roid rage' babbling on like a homo on your blog.

Think I might go take a big "blog" now, might have a pic of you from your site i can use to wipe my ass with..

[Old School]

This is all such A load of Shit! "Oh my god bodybuilders using Steriods" it's what we do! It's a huge part of the sport! Dale did it when he was a bodybuilder/powerlifter and now he dose'nt now that he is a business man. What the f*ck was Justin supposed to do say on national television only months after his parole? that he is currently breaking the law? that would have made him the dumbest f*ck ever! No real bodybuilder would have considered what Justin said to be dishonest because we are all in on the joke. and as for this "supplement boss challenge" that has run since 2002, Dale him self said that no one has ever taken him up on it! so what is it? it's nothing but one man lone ego, lost in a world where no one gives a f*ck. and is it dishonest to endorse nutritional supplements while making the bulk of your gains from roids? Probably but who really cares? all supplements are pretty much the same anyway and none are very effective without steriods anyway! almost all other industries use the same sort of advertising. it's just the way the world is and if people are gullable enough to fall for it unlucky for them.

[Dale]

Taken from the Miada site

Justin has sought solice from members of websites that promote the use of steroids and other performance enhancing drugs

What a toss. Dale you like to slander (without proof) then you get your g string in a twist when others talk about you? I think this is very poor business and you are showing signs of 'roid rage' babbling on like a homo on your blog.

Think I might go take a big "blog" now' date=' might have a pic of you from your site i can use to wipe my ass with..[/quote']

KEATS did you or did you not post this:

PostRe: Test Enathate 500mg at once?

Posted on Fri Sep 26, 2008 10:00 am

keats

Member

2guns wrote:test e has plasma half-life time in the blood of around 10 days...

so, u are fine to inject yr whole 500mg in one shot every 7 days.

Thats what I do. I usually do 500mg every 5 days though

Determination that is incorruptible

Now like most on this site, you seem to take it quite personal this drug testing and the reasons are obvious, you are a drug user by your own admission not mine on this site. I never make a statement I cannot support.

You talk so tough and get so personal online under a pseudonym name. I don't get personal but if I was I'd probably say something like "how did you survive birdflu? I thought it was killing off all the chickens." Listen to yourselves, you're a group of clowns and wannabes who use drugs and have no talent, who hide behind pseudonyms as you are scared of reality, scared to be upfront.

It is so funny that you users all group together like little rabid dogs licking each others wounds and asses. Nobody who doesn't take drugs has a problem with drug testing. It's a non-issue, you just test as there's nothing to hide.

Of course you don't know anyone using Miada Luigi..you arent achieving anything of any consequence quite obviously. But with well over 10,000 customers now and building every day Miada seems to be just getting more and more popular...of course our customers aren't in your circle of drug using posting here on NZBB.

For fucks sake - front up Justin "Bigkiwi" and do the challenge, prove you are drug free as you claim! Thomas McEnerney "2GUNS" man up and take up my offer, as you implied you would in this thread! And KEATS, well what can you say - get a spine and use your real name and stop making statements that I have no proof when you posted you were using Test Enanthate yourself on the site!

I think I need to make a much bigger issue of this whole drug thing and supplement representatives making misleading and deceptive claims. Maybe some sort of licensing needs to be bought into the industry by Government on this matter. Thanks team, you've given me a great idea to clean up the industry and bring back some credibility to what is a spiralling problem. Lets keep it going so it draws some serious media attention and only then will it bring about change. Good work.

[Specter]

Well over 10,000 customers now huh? What bullshit are you supplying them to buy your products? :roll:

[2guns]

dale take up yr own challenge

[2guns]

[MOD EDIT: No inflammatory comments, please. Stay on topic.]

[Matrix]

I have blood test results and have always been willing to drug test anytime, anywhere, anyplace ever sinjce starting the supplement boss challenge. I have never tested positive for steroids or other performance enhancing drugs and neither do I have any convictions for using steroids. I have never sold or distributed steroids. I have never supplied steroids to any individual or been convicted of supplying any drugs of any nature to any individual.

Just a question Dale, you mention that you have never TESTED positive for steroids and I believe you when you state that, however, have you ever used steroids to improve your results?

Being a business man with morals and standards who wants to clean up the supplement industry, surely you wont mind answering that question and staking your reputation and integrity on your answer?

[2guns]

lol, i too have never tested positive for steroids

[diamond]

LOL. This thread is out of control.

[keats]

KEATS, well what can you say - get a spine and use your real name and stop making statements that I have no proof when you posted you were using Test Enanthate yourself on the site!

We unlike yourself Dale are here to help each other and give advice SHOULD people ask for it not banter on like a fool. We use psudo names so we can do this without judgement from people like yourself. People choose what they take so wat gives you the right to judge?

Also what gives you the right to collectively call all of the members on this site steroid users? There is ONE section for this should people chose to see it or ask for advice without fear of prosecution from people like yourself. People know they are not going to get to be the size of BK on suppliments and it does not take a competetion like what you are suggesting to show that or are you looking for publicity?

No-one knows for sure if you have used or not, people can use come off for a while and claim to be 'natural'

Would be interesting for you to test yourself now, BEFORE any contest and post the results on this page.

I have also never TESTED positive for steroids, just like you