BREAKING NEWS: Blasts Hit London, Capital In Chaos!

[ExpensiveUrine]

London is in chaos after a series of explosions have closed the Underground train system.

There is still no official confirmation about whether this is a terroist attack but the indications are strong.

In the last few minutes Arab sources that monitor Al Jazeera say that Al Qaeda has claimed responsibility for the explosions.....

http://xtramsn.co.nz/news/0,,11965-4546865,00.html

All I can truly say is.....Holly Shit.

[deegee]

yeah I 've been watching a fair bit of it live on cnn seems very confused at the moment though and no one really knows what has happened.

looks like the city has been shut down almost so no word on casualties etc.

sad however that if it is a terrorist act

[ExpensiveUrine]

Several numbers are floating around, although unsure which ones are true.

Those explosions happened almost simultaneously, different shit was targeted, so it most likely is a terrorist attack.

[frogie2001]

mate stay away from CNN, they drama things up way too much (competition with hollywood). i watched it on BBC this morn, around 37 confirmed dead and 12-15 in intensive. 4 simultaneous blasts, 3 in the tube and 1 on a bus. I don't want to sound calous but the IRA has done worse and with alot less publicity.

a faction of al quada has claimed responsibility.

I think everyone needs to stay calm and not jump to conlusions. personally i don't want another reaction like the yanks with the twin towers, where they declared war, dropped bombs, F'd up international travel by installing cavity searches on flights.

[jono]

stupid terrorists. i think they should be all hunted down and killed.

[frogie2001]

too right. I think the only problem is that when a suicide bomber does his "job" right. they have already been killed.

I have just checked out a US based forum, screy stuff. they have already blamed all muslim, middle eastern countries, and anyone else that doesn't have a USA endorsed government.

I hope they don't somehow link NZ to "terrorism" and invade us.... wait they have no need we don't have any oil.

I reckon give it a week before bush says they need to invade Iran

[Cornfed]

It may well be a staged attack to enable the real terrorists to pillage the rest of the Middle East and steal the rest of the world's energy resources, which would explain the intense publicity. Quite likely, "The Terrorists" this will be blamed on will be said to be holed up in Iran, so naturally it will be necessary to go in and get them, and all the oil they're holding hostage of course.

[Cornfed]

Oops, frogie said what I was going to say while I was typing my post.

[frogie2001]

check this out! scarey stuff from the USA based forum. I just hope that they don't blame us :shifty:

"Well as a red blooded American I must say that America ought to look out for herself, and her citizens. America should guard it's true land and borders, in general, look out for number one and to hell with the rest of the world.

Screw the mid-east; let them kill each other out or let them fight like animals until they tire (is that possible, seems not) and the same for any other nation in this crazy world.

America needs to secure it's borders and ensure that our people are truly safe and free within our mighty nation, from sea to sea, north to south. Free to enjoy our society and deal with our problems. We need to clean up our own back yard before we should try cleaning up the world.

If then by chance some uninvited trouble comes our way from some crazy outside source, such as these terrorist groups (rergardless of any relious affiliation or not)then we will be righteous in our responses and we should consider any nation that harbors these terrorists as a direct threat to our future as a nation and respond accordingly. Atomic bombs work rather well. If a terrorist action arises from our own citizenship, we should investigate, determine responsibility through our court system and immediately institute a mandatory death penality.

It is high time we focus on our nation, it's strengths, it's weaknesses and it's future potential and quit messing in nations that really are not worth one tiny drop of American blood.

In addition, we should make every concerted effort to unite all religions active in America with the focus on maintaining familial and social coherence and to ignore the disfunctionality of religions in other nations.

America needs to be it's own ally.

[jono]

check this out! scarey stuff from the USA based forum. I just hope that they don't blame us :shifty:

"Well as a red blooded American I must say that America ought to look out for herself, and her citizens. America should guard it's true land and borders, in general, look out for number one and to hell with the rest of the world.

Screw the mid-east; let them kill each other out or let them fight like animals until they tire (is that possible, seems not) and the same for any other nation in this crazy world.

America needs to secure it's borders and ensure that our people are truly safe and free within our mighty nation, from sea to sea, north to south. Free to enjoy our society and deal with our problems. We need to clean up our own back yard before we should try cleaning up the world.

If then by chance some uninvited trouble comes our way from some crazy outside source, such as these terrorist groups (rergardless of any relious affiliation or not)then we will be righteous in our responses and we should consider any nation that harbors these terrorists as a direct threat to our future as a nation and respond accordingly. Atomic bombs work rather well. If a terrorist action arises from our own citizenship, we should investigate, determine responsibility through our court system and immediately institute a mandatory death penality.

It is high time we focus on our nation, it's strengths, it's weaknesses and it's future potential and quit messing in nations that really are not worth one tiny drop of American blood.

In addition, we should make every concerted effort to unite all religions active in America with the focus on maintaining familial and social coherence and to ignore the disfunctionality of religions in other nations.

America needs to be it's own ally.

i support this view. you cant sit back and watch your people get killed.

[Growth]

Im thinking along the lines of what Cornfed said, i think they may put a spin of the situation and point to Iran so that they have another excuse to invade middle-eastern countries and secure oil lines.

What gets me when things like these happen is that all people who follow the muslim religon and all middle-estern countries and their people get painted with the same brush as terrorists.

Terrorism is always going to have heated debate, but people who cast blame on all middle-eastern countries and muslim people are only going to make matters worse.

I saw on a news article that there is already some backlash against people in the muslim community in London, sure the people of London are going to be pretty damn enraged by what has happened but you cant go taking it out on the innocent ones.

[frogie2001]

I reckon imagine if 10 years ago everyone backlashed against the IRA by saying all Catholics are terrorists. and taking "appropriate" actions

[jono]

Im thinking along the lines of what Cornfed said, i think they may put a spin of the situation and point to Iran so that they have another excuse to invade middle-eastern countries and secure oil lines.

What gets me when things like these happen is that all people who follow the muslim religon and all middle-estern countries and their people get painted with the same brush as terrorists.

Terrorism is always going to have heated debate, but people who cast blame on all middle-eastern countries and muslim people are only going to make matters worse.

I saw on a news article that there is already some backlash against people in the muslim community in London, sure the people of London are going to be pretty damn enraged by what has happened but you cant go taking it out on the innocent ones.

if a middle eastern man killed you family, friends and other people close to you with a bomb. what would you do ?

its VERY easy to sit in our safe country and act like we would never stoop to the level of others. but i dont think you can really say what you would do, or judge others untill you have been affected such as they have been.

[Growth]

Yeah thats what im saying, sure i would want revenge on the person responsible but i wouldnt go around taunting every middle-eastern person that i came across, thats just ludacris.

[frogie2001]

if a middle eastern man killed you family, friends and other people close to you with a bomb. what would you do ?

its VERY easy to sit in our safe country and act like we would never stoop to the level of others. but i dont think you can really say what you would do, or judge others untill you have been affected such as they have been.

I'd kill him if the bomb didn't do it, then his brothers, wife, uncle, cat, the neighbours cat, than I'd invade his house and control his assets, than I would look at his neighbour, see that he too was a middle eastern person, take over their house (just in case) and execute their cat too (twice, just to make sure he got the message). Than I would see that genetically asians are closely related to the middle east people, and see that my other neighbour is asian, kill their cat, and take over their place.

Don't forget that North africa is largely muslim, just like the middle east. I should find some of them and do the same. but wait there are muslims (just like middle east) in eastern europe. kill all of their cats too.

Can you see the problem with blaming a race of people for a minorities actions. the chain doesn't end, terrorists are fluid, if you cut off an arm another pops up, remove the head, another pops up. blow them up , close their bank accuonts. increase security, do what you want. they will find a way to get through it all, because they are more pissed off and dedicated to their cause (I don't agree with their cause), but I don't think that they are completely blameless.

[jono]

Yeah thats what im saying, sure i would want revenge on the person responsible but i wouldnt go around taunting every middle-eastern person that i came across, thats just ludacris.

you would think its that simple but its not. the reason is:

its not just you thats been affected. when you have a large group of people who have had this happen to them.. they act as a mob. an angry mob. and since all this steems from seeminly middle eastern people, they will focus their anger on those people.

i think if it was only 1 who was affected, or only 1 middle eastern person who did the killing we would not be seeing some of what we are.

[tallulahangie]

The events of the past 24 hours in London sadden me immensely. I do congratulate London for having a rapid action plan and commend those emergency services workers for their roles in helping the injured. No doubt the repercussions of this event will be pivotal in world affairs for quite some time.

As a member of the Commonwealth, however loose our ties have become, I believe that New Zealand should take precautions and look at the scenario that we are a target for terrorists. Australia supported the US in Iraq alongside the British and Australia could very well be next on the list. Considering New Zealand's proximity to Australia and the assumption by foreigners that "NZ is part of of Australia", New Zealand could very well be a prime target as well. In saying that, New Zealand has tried to maintain neutrality as much as possible and we could be seen as a safehaven for these extremists. It is simply not an option for New Zealand to sit back and be complacent in this day and age. We are no longer in the 1940s where Britain, Australia or even the US will come to our aid. These days it is a case of "watch your own back".

[Growth]

you would think its that simple but its not

Well then you are as bad as the terrorists, do you think they blow themselves up and innocent people for fun? The people who do these things believe an injustice has been brought apon them, they do it in an attempt to bring to the attention of the world these injustices.

Obviously its not a very diplomatic option, but if these people are willing to die and take others with them dont you think the motive behind it all must mean a great deal to them?

Dont get me worng im totally against what these people do, i think its discusting that they kill innocent people, but where does the violence end, its like what frogie said.

All you seem to hear in the news articles is how is so and so country going to retaliate, what is going to be the next step, what country shall we invade, who should we bomb for this, does anyone stop to ask, hey why are these people doing this, what is the reason for it.

IMO you have to get to the bottom of the problem, find out the source, declaring more war and killing more innocent people is not gonig to accoplish anything.

[hrdcor]

tallulahangie if you think if NZ got in trouble and no one would come to our aid then you must have lost all faith in humanity, you can bet your bottom dollar if we got in trouble just about every free nation in the world would turn up and help us, Nz is loved by all whom we have ties with and NZs contirbutions to the rest of the world is such if ever a terrible thing did happen to us they would turn up in droves , that i am sure of!!