2nd Cycle.

[Superion]

So a few of people have given me different opinion regarding my next cycle.

It will be my second cycle. My goal is to gain a few kgs while dropping some BF.

Cycle:

Week 1-8 100ml/Test P-EOD

Week 1-7 75mg/Tren A-EOD

A few people thinks that it is too early for me to be doing tren?

I know gaining mass while dropping BF, what a joke right? but a few reliable people i have talked to swear the the cycle will deliver.

Give me your 2cents guys!

[Optimass]

anything under 8 weeks is a waste of time ... weeks 12 to 15 are key growth weeks ..

[keats]

Optimass is correct, I would go for a minimum of 10 weeks, interesting cycle though.

[Nato]

Be careful with the tren dude! its toxic as, i would never do more than 4 weeks at a time and only pre comp!!

[keats]

Be careful with the tren dude! its toxic as, i would never do more than 4 weeks at a time and only pre comp!!

What basis do you have to say that tren is toxic?

[mr natural]

yeah nato! i been runing tren for alot longer than 4 weeks at a time and i'm fine! coff cofffff

seriously though, what gives you that idea?

[2guns]

8 weeks with those two is fine! they are both fast acting! u will notice strength within first week.

[goinhard]

The compilation of anabolic and nutritional supplements lists trenbolone(parabolan) as fairly toxic.

[2guns]

it aint toxic. thts wrong information done by early studies of parabolan. the hydrohexacarbonate (i think its called) ester was toxic.....

trenbolone acetate and enanthate are not

[goinhard]

Trenbolone cyclohexylmethylcarbonate is parabolan.

[2guns]

anyway all i was saying was tren a is not toxic. and 75mg eod isnt exactly a high dose so yr liver and kidneys will be fine

[IronGame]

I would be more concerned about possible prostate issues when running tren for extended periods (i.e. 15weeks plus) if you start having trouble urinating or have cramping feeling's in the groin/anal region its time for a break. Also for those who are prone to male pattern baldness tren can excelerate this. I believe tren is slightly renal (kidney) toxic but not to any large extent. Shut down and suppression of HPTA with tren is massive so I would suggest running your test 3-4weeks past the end of the tren and tapperng off, if your concerned about testicular atrophy run 500iu HCG 2xweek throughout the tren portion of the cycle.

If you develop gyno from tren (progesterone induced) you will need some caber or similar to combat this as nolva/clomid/adex/letro will do little to help.

Expect night sweats and poor quality sleep and possible lack of sex drive and even impotance while on.

All that said Tren is unbeatable IMO massive strength and size gains and significant body fat reduction.

[mr natural]

yes all true points iron game, i noticed i malted a little hair first off when i started using it in the bath,shower ect but seemed to settle, both my parents and grandparents still have lots of hair so i guess im not genetically prone to it,same with prostate according to doctors tests.

i noticed sleep patterners take a while to normalize on it.

yeah i got slight gyno while on it which mystified me somewhat.

test needs to be run with it if you wanna keep a good sex drive although if you getting ready for a comp the lack of interest in pussy can be helpful!

[2guns]

sounds like yr experiencing old age ther mr natural not tren sides

[mr natural]

:pfft: haha, i like to blame the tren.