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Bad bloods results after test cycle.

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diamond Senior member

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I read your posts Mr Geeky and i can never understand what you are trying to achieve?

There is not much point in a fat person taking aas, and i'm not saying you are fat but it sounds like you are fairly overweight and most of the guys on here that use aas are in reasonably good condition to start off with. ( except mr natural who holds more water than the titanic )

You also sound very uninformed which is probably not the best if you are going to keep on using.

Maybe you should just stick to creatine if you are not disciplined enough to keep your diet under control.

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hmm, I didnt think injecting yourself with veg oil would be good for your health. Guess learn something new every day.

Ok, as for natural test... The Testosterone you get from the Health Clinics are a totally natural testosterone. They are created by taking (****) what ever it is, out of plants and altering it slightly. But yes, its a totally natural product that the Health clinics sell. Its how they get around being able to sell it. If it was synthetic it would be illegal for them to prescibe it. I was very dubious of it when I first bought so at some great expense (cost of endicrinolgist) I got it tested to see what was in it.

He said results came back that it was a natural product but the levels of testosterone in it were of a pharacuitcal nature. He was aghast that they were able to sell it.

And I am not even sure if the docs in Health Clinics are actually even real doctors as we know them to be. The one I go to also is a sexologist. Dont ask cause I dont know what a sexologist is. lol. Probably saying too much in here, but yes, the product is purely natural. No synthetic substances in it what so ever. Its one of the reasons I dont mind taking it. It should be totally harmless to the liver. I asked the endicrinologist if it should be harmful ingesting it and he said no.

It seems you are being feed with tons of misinformation, testosterone is testosterone, there is no such thing as natural test, except for what we produce in our own bodies, all test is synthetic and chemical in nature, yes it origonally derived from organic material but so is heroin, cocane, methanphetamine are you comfortable calling these natural substances? and as such happy to put them in to your body?

Testosterone and most other AAS get bought in powder form buy pharma companies and UG labs alike, the only difference is that pharma production is tightly regulated as far as processes and product quality (hence the massive mark up on finished product), at the end of the day the testosterone, in the form of an injectable oil is comprised of testosterone powder, BA and BB (so it is soluable and more sterile) and some sort of oil carrier wether it be EO, grapeseed oil or whatever. There is no difference chemicaly between UG and Pharma gear. With pharma you get a higher degree of assurance that the dose strength (mg/ml) is what is states on the vial/ampule etc, and an added leved of sterility, though sterile is a relitive term in such that nothing is 100% sterile.

Stop listening to your "sexoligist" and be inquisitive and intelligent in educating yourself.

Im glad you have stuck around though as this is a steeep learning curve for you :clap:

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hmm, I didnt think injecting yourself with veg oil would be good for your health. Guess learn something new every day.

Dude - if it's good enough to cook your eggs it's not gonna matter too much if you poke a bit in your bum! :) Vegetable oil that is :oops:

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lol optimas.......... IronGame, I appreciate what your saying. But the test that I was taking according to the people that make it, and the quack that writes the script for it, and the endicrinologist that I took it have all told me it is a totally natural product. Are you saying I should not believe them?

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just a note, the troches are not taken orally as such. You do not eat it or swallow it. It is placed in your upper gum lining. It is absorbed through the gums. The problem is as it dissolves, you will undoubtedly swallow fine particles of it, and also you cant help but swallow some in your saliva. But at a guess, 80 to 90 % is absorbed through the gums at a guess. Just wanted to clear that up. Its not an oral as such.

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just a note, the troches are not taken orally as such. You do not eat it or swallow it. It is placed in your upper gum lining. It is absorbed through the gums. The problem is as it dissolves, you will undoubtedly swallow fine particles of it, and also you cant help but swallow some in your saliva. But at a guess, 80 to 90 % is absorbed through the gums at a guess. Just wanted to clear that up. Its not an oral as such.

what is a troche ?? sounds pretty dodgy if you dont know how much your taking each time.

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luigi, its ecxpalined thru out then thread, but basically a cube (tab) u place between yr cheek and lower gum and it dissolves, ther is some debate about how much actually gets absorbed into yr blood...

there are much better options available to bodybuilding purposes

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luigi, its ecxpalined thru out then thread, but basically a cube (tab) u place between yr cheek and lower gum and it dissolves, ther is some debate about how much actually gets absorbed into yr blood...

there are much better options available to bodybuilding purposes

ahh sorry just skimmed over that bit

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it sounds more dodge taking some "tab" and not knowing how much your actually getting from it than just inj a couple times a week. if u find someone you trust y would u pay a shit load to these doctors and not just get some UG test. you say its dodgy but how many people are using the stuff with no problems and great results

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you say its dodgy but how many people are using the stuff with no problems and great results

amen to that, i think u will find the clinics are now stocking this so called UG gear, i know one in auckland city is, thats quite humerous.... a mens clinic stocking UG gear lol

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Elevated Homocysteine can be an indication you're low in B vitamins

Elevated lipids are normal when on AAS.You can manipulate you diet to keep this in control{don't ask me how,do YOUR homework}

And yes AAS are reduced and suspended in vegetable oil,that's normal too.

Not gear oil.

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auck_builder Actually you have a very valid point there. Hmmm, have to give that some thought.

2guns when you say they are selling UG stuff, do you mean injectibles or are you still talking troches?

Jasthace... Informative! cheers for that.

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2guns when you say they are selling UG stuff, do you mean injectibles or are you still talking troches?

no not talking troches, they are shit. period.

read my post again i did not say im 100% sure they are all selling it, but i know one based in central auckland is.

i know one is, the others i dnt know

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2guns when you say they are selling UG stuff, do you mean injectibles or are you still talking troches?

no not talking troches, they are shit. period.

read my post again i did not say im 100% sure they are all selling it, but i know one based in central auckland is.

i know one is, the others i dnt know

i would say most of them are, imagine the profit they are making

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Whatever...most of them arent auck_builder...

Those that are selling UG gear are operating outside regulations and most arent prepared to do this. Anyway, you have no idea how much prescription gear costs...its not too costly to the clinics and they make a shitload of profit from it.

my bad, was a bit of an asumption

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