Bad bloods results after test cycle.

[mrgeeky]

My Lipid group, Haematology and Homocysteine results all came back bad after a test cycle, but my usually clean diet had also gone to shit during the cycle.. And I mean bad, from eating fish to kfc etc...

My doc reckons stop all testosterone and get my diet back on track and go in for a review in a months time. I dont want to stop the test, but when it comes to health, no choice really.

Anyway, what I wanted to know was, does anyone have anythoughts of whether it was likely to be the testosterone, or the diet thats caused these problems. I was always border line with results before the test and the bad diet anyways.

[2guns]

I was always border line with results before the test and the bad diet anyways.

well if u were boarderline to start with then id say yes it was caused by that (probably mostly by yr shit eating habits)

The other thing, will living on Lipex and cartia be an option to sort this problem while staying on the test and getting my diet right. Or should I listen to the doc and stop the testosterone altogether?

get some help bro, only a fiend would ask this! YR HEALTH IS BAD! STOP USING TILL U GET THAT SORTED!

[mrgeeky]

cheers 2guns, appreciated. Had decided to stop using unless someone had very good advice to the contrary. Appreciate your imput and yep, have actually stopped and have diet back on track. Am going to take the lipex for a while too as much as I hate the shit. Once things settle down, will slowly introduce the test again and see what happens keeping a close eye on bloods. Thanks again for your advice.

[2guns]

y dnt u use an inj test rather than those lil cubes?

[mrgeeky]

actually I been using a mixture of cubes and patches. Much much cheaper than anything else, and from a guaranteed legit place. Know exactly what your geting. Patches are actually free. Because they are gov funded, no cost. Cant complain about free. :-)

[2guns]

how much are the cubes costing u?

[Marcus]

Your bad blood profile could be a number of things mrgeeky. As 2guns said the best thing you can do is finish your PCT & clean up your diet. Then give it a couple of months & get retested.

Is your bodyfat excessively high?

[mrgeeky]

yes, overweight, I think I should be somewhere around 94kg give or take but am currently 110kg. Need to lose around 16kg. My diet is usually very clean, the last couple of months, really lost it. Back to strict now, badbloods was a real wake up call.

[mrgeeky]

usually very clean? lol, well thats a lie. Ok, I mean, my diet is usually fairly healthy, much better way to say it. My diet is usually based on fish etc, with the odd bit of junk food, but I would say my diet is much cleaner than the average persons. but yes, its been real bad of late. Have stopped all test and am back on track with diet. Just gotta work out what doseage of Nolvadex to ask the doc for.

[mrgeeky]

funny how some say how bad roids are, when infact, if I wasnt playing with them, I would never have had the blood tests and would never have picked up what my bad diet was doing to me.

[2guns]

mr geeky, it is ppl like u who give them a bad name. u are already in bad health before u start taking them. and u just turn a blindeye to yr health and diet and eat even worse. u then get sick....

then everyone finds out u were using and over looks everything else and blaims the steroids.

not good

[IronGame]

Yes your diet should have been more "on point" then before you started being on gear is no reason to let your diet go to shit. It was likely both the diet and test that increased lipid profile.

[mr natural]

mr geeky, it is ppl like u who give them a bad name. u are already in bad health before u start taking them. and u just turn a blindeye to yr health and diet and eat even worse. u then get sick....

then everyone finds out u were using and over looks everything else and blaims the steroids.

not good

lol when was the last time you got checked or went to a doctor! :pfft: what a joke

[2guns]

mr natural? wats yr point?

fyi, i actually went november last year... got sumthing prescribed, told him wat i was using (lied a lil so he would give me wat i wanted lol) he gave me a blood test sheet i went to a diagnostics medlab had a blood test and they sent it back to him, he said if anything was wrong he would give me a ring i didnt hear from him.

im allgood, yrself?

[mr natural]

he probably died himself when he read your results.

[2guns]

no hes still alive, so mr natural when was yr last check? or are the female hormone therapy specialists all too busy to test u?

[mr natural]

mid way last year.all was fine apart form very supressed natural levels lol

[Optimass]

he probably died himself when he read your results.

Your diet is not helping but orals will thicken your blood. (Genesis are notorious for this ... or so i've heard) -- I.E you'll test as having symptoms similar to polycythemia. Well identical actually --- basically your red bloodcell count increases.

Clean your diet up - drink a lot more water as it will assist in thining your blood (increase plasma) - and stop taking orals and you should be fine.

y dnt u use an inj test rather than those lil cubes?

Good point ...

[mrgeeky]

2guns something I never do is to turn a blind eye to my health. Ever! Yep, let my diet go for a while, but didnt take long to figure out what I was doing wrong and changed it. Can you say your diet has been perfect your whole life? We're not all perfect all the time!

Optimass, so you think its the natural testosterone that I was taking that has helped along with the bad diet?

So injectibles would solve this problem?

Black Market stuff is scarey though. I spoke to some one a while back that said they had some tested that they had bought. He said it came back with a high percentage of veg oil in it. Thats the prob with the black market, its all very well trusting your supplier, but can you trust the manufacturer, and even more so, if its an U.G. brew. If I could get some that was manufactured in a genuine known lab I would be keen. Just not brave enough to play with underground stuff.

Hey guys, thank you very much for you advice and help.

[IronGame]

2guns something I never do is to turn a blind eye to my health. Ever! Yep, let my diet go for a while, but didnt take long to figure out what I was doing wrong and changed it. Can you say your diet has been perfect your whole life? We're not all perfect all the time!

Optimass, so you think its the natural testosterone that I was taking that has helped along with the bad diet?

So injectibles would solve this problem?

Black Market stuff is scarey though. I spoke to some one a while back that said they had some tested that they had bought. He said it came back with a high percentage of veg oil in it. Thats the prob with the black market, its all very well trusting your supplier, but can you trust the manufacturer, and even more so, if its an U.G. brew. If I could get some that was manufactured in a genuine known lab I would be keen. Just not brave enough to play with underground stuff.

Hey guys, thank you very much for you advice and help.

What do you mean by "Natural testosterone you were taking"?

And of course it contains a high level of veg oil that is what the testosterone compound is held in to make it suitable for injection, would you be concerned if your testosterone suspension came back showing a high level of H2O? NO because thats the medium that it is suspended in.

[IronGame]

In saying that I very much reccomend you stay far away from ANY form of AAS untill you have done at least a couple of years worth of reading and learning.

[Optimass]

Optimass, so you think its the natural testosterone that I was taking that has helped along with the bad diet?

So injectibles would solve this problem?

Black Market stuff is scarey though.

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Natural?? note sure what you mean but I'm not saying inj will solve the problem -- they will definately be more effective.

[Optimass]

Optimass, so you think its the natural testosterone that I was taking that has helped along with the bad diet?

So injectibles would solve this problem?

Black Market stuff is scarey though.

Natural?? note sure what you mean but I'm not saying inj will solve the problem -- they will definately be more effective.

[mrgeeky]

hmm, I didnt think injecting yourself with veg oil would be good for your health. Guess learn something new every day.

Ok, as for natural test... The Testosterone you get from the Health Clinics are a totally natural testosterone. They are created by taking (****) what ever it is, out of plants and altering it slightly. But yes, its a totally natural product that the Health clinics sell. Its how they get around being able to sell it. If it was synthetic it would be illegal for them to prescibe it. I was very dubious of it when I first bought so at some great expense (cost of endicrinolgist) I got it tested to see what was in it.

He said results came back that it was a natural product but the levels of testosterone in it were of a pharacuitcal nature. He was aghast that they were able to sell it.

And I am not even sure if the docs in Health Clinics are actually even real doctors as we know them to be. The one I go to also is a sexologist. Dont ask cause I dont know what a sexologist is. lol. Probably saying too much in here, but yes, the product is purely natural. No synthetic substances in it what so ever. Its one of the reasons I dont mind taking it. It should be totally harmless to the liver. I asked the endicrinologist if it should be harmful ingesting it and he said no.

[mrgeeky]

ok, and let me clarify a little further. re "He said results came back that it was a natural product but the levels of testosterone in it were of a pharacuitcal nature. He was aghast that they were able to sell it"

He had teh troches tested but also took bloods before I took it, then got me to take it for a couple of days and redid the tests. My testosterone levels went from around 16 or 18, cant remember which up to 96 in two days.

The high level of test in my system was what made him not overly happy. Just thought i should clear that up.