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ASSAULT - Exclusive sampling ....?


Hennie

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Hey weener I don't make the rules. It may not seem to make much sense restricting B12 but the powers that be have decided to do it so we're stuck with it for now. Take it up with your local politician if you want to try and change it.

Lmao you have a picture of arnold smoking a joint in your avatar and yet you are surprisingly law abiding.

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I hate to be a party pooper but I'm not to sure if NO Shotgun V3 is entirely legal in NZ. It contains 2 ingredients which could cause problems with medsafe both of which are closely related to amphetamine and if used in high enough doses will return a positive test for amphetamine in any drug tested sport - beta-phenylethylamine HCL, and r-beta-methylphenylethylamine. You will test positive with > 100 μg/ml of beta PEA.

I'm not too sure how strict medsafe are on phenylethylamines (PEA) as they occur naturally in a few things like cocoa, however the HCL form is obviously a lab made product so probably is pushing the limit.

There's quite a few products coming out using beta-PEA and other PEA's now, especially fat burners, so anyone competing in tested events should be aware of this.

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I hate to be a party pooper but I'm not to sure if NO Shotgun V3 is entirely legal in NZ. It contains 2 ingredients which could cause problems with medsafe both of which are closely related to amphetamine and if used in high enough doses will return a positive test for amphetamine in any drug tested sport - beta-phenylethylamine HCL, and r-beta-methylphenylethylamine. You will test positive with > 100 μg/ml of beta PEA.

I'm not too sure how strict medsafe are on phenylethylamines (PEA) as they occur naturally in a few things like cocoa, however the HCL form is obviously a lab made product so probably is pushing the limit.

There's quite a few products coming out using beta-PEA and other PEA's now, especially fat burners, so anyone competing in tested events should be aware of this.

Thanks Flex

Seriously, I will rather know than to push the limits.

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At the moment PEA's may or may not be an issue. The FDA in the US doesn't seem to be too concerned with them, however this may be through a lack of information or confusion over what they are. It may also be due to that until now the PEA's used were pretty tame, and natural occurring amines found in foods. Now they seem to be getting a lot more pure and used in more and more products.

There was a whole book written on them several years ago by the godfather of ecstacy, Alexander Shulgin, called PIHKAL [Phenethylamines I Have Known And Loved].

I think a few dance pill manufacturers in NZ have now got hold of this as, now that they can't use BZP, they seem to be using various forms of PEA's in dance pills which has raised the eyebrows of the powers that be.

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Yeah laws laws laws, in ref to the universal animal prod too. Last month I got my Animal Staks and Animal Paks confiscated...yep apparently you can't bring them either...er or sell em unless you are selling them from a pharmacy :oops:

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Yeah laws laws laws, in ref to the universal animal prod too. Last month I got my Animal Staks and Animal Paks confiscated...yep apparently you can't bring them either...er or sell em unless you are selling them from a pharmacy :oops:

We're you bringing them in for personal use or for retail? I assume is what they caught you on was too much zinc. If for personal use then you got screwed. They can't confiscate them, there's no law against importing products for personal use that contain zinc.

If for retail sale you still got screwed on the animal pak as they are legal for retail sale in NZ and they can't confiscate them as long as you know what you're doing. You just need to read the label and know what you're selling.

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