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IronGame Senior member

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Gotta be careful with T3. It burns both muscle and fat. Best to be used with AAS.

According to my knowledge it will only start being catabolic to muscle when you go over 40mcg/ day. It definitely works better with AAS, as most stuff do, but you can still use it without ASS if you don't want to go the anabolic route, just don't go to high on the daily dose.

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Thanks. I wont go 14 weeks on it either....I would proberbly need to be checked into a pscyh ward if I went that long!

Reread my post I never suggested you go on t3 for 14 weeks! 2 weeks at a time is what I said

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samoan_muscle Veteran member

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standard recommened cycle for t3 is a 6 week taper on and off,its the only way i have run it and would not suggest doing it any other way. read up on it,don't follow"advice" on this substance.

Have any of you guys actually used T3?? Not T4 by the way....

Otherwise most of the advice you guys are giving is just what you've read...and there are alot conflicting opinions out there on T3 and how it should be used.

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i have used it on 3 6 week cycles.

i have used t4 once on the same protocol

no u didnt, it was t4

Lol at Mr Natural...

You will know when you are using T3 mr natural. T4 can make you feel tired and sluggish...even more so when dieting. T3 is the opposite...usually feel quite energetic...around 30mins after taking it. Kinda of like a speed rush ..and the fat literally drops off you (no matter what your eating and no cardio) - no two ways about it. You don't look at yourself in the mirror and say " I think its working - I'm looking a little bit leaner"...the results are pretty drastic within a short period of time (2 to 4 weeks).

If you didnt experience any of the above, I'm sorry Mr natural...you were taking T4 or at worse, some panadol lol

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no it was t 3, i got you some about a year back remember,i got my t4 from alpha clinic,never got any through you.

i hope you did not mistake my t3 for t4 that i gave you.

Yeah sorry mr natty...youre so called T4 from the alpha clinic was T3. 2guns gave me some of that as well. I know from the markings that were on those pills...

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thats total bullshit cause i got it on script from a doctor and went to a pharmacy and got it myself,i still have a few left in the container with the label on if you care to look. i don't know what stuff you have been taking but i suggest its not t3.

Ok let me clear the air dumbo...eltroxin or thyroxine or whatever they call it is the only synthetic thyroid hormone available on prescription here in NZ....it contains levothyroxine which is T4 50mcg or 100mcg white tabs (there are little yellow ones about too)

Tertroxin used to be avaible on prescription a couple of years back but has been withdrawn and can only be prescribed on special application to medsafe and if they approve, they bring it in.

Tertroxin contains Liothyronine sodium aka T3...if your product or so called "T3" doesnt contain this active ingredient than it is not T3.

So:

T3 = liothyronine sodium (cytomel, tertroxin, cynomel etc)

T4 = levothyroxine sodium (thyroxine, eltroxin, synthroid etc)

Dont get the two confused or let anyone else try and confuse you.

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well the doc wrote out the script for t3 and i'm pretty sure thats what the label says it is, however i will double check it tonight to make sure i'm not talkin out my arse.ps it was not doct yohan that i got if from.it was from a totally independant doc and i went to parmacy and brought it.i can show you the continer if you don't wana take my word for it.

I did get one cycle worth of 4 from alpha clinic however.

Most doctors dont know the difference or which one is more active...so stuff asking them.

Just tell us what it says on the container and I'l tell you whether or not it is T3...

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standard recommened cycle for t3 is a 6 week taper on and off,its the only way i have run it and would not suggest doing it any other way. read up on it,don't follow"advice" on this substance.

This a bit of a contradiction isn't it? "the standard reccomended cycle is 6 weeks" and then "dont take advice on this substance" what is a "standard" dose anyway? in the medical field it is not cycled at all, it is run to make up for a deficiency in the bodys natural production just like TRT or HRT.

And T4 can be run for months without any real issues unlike T3 if you have a properly functioning thyroid gland and receptors.

T3 has not been available in NZ except on the black market for quite some time.

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well for body building purposes obvioulsy the person is going to have a normal funtioning thyroid otherwise they will be already using it so whats your point?

the taper on/off is safe way to not upset your thyroid funtion too much.

where do you get your info from about t 4 as all i have ever read says it has same effect on thyriod as t3 only difference being t4 gets converted to t3 so you need more of it.so why in theroy should you be able to run it for months?

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