Sugar free RED BULL

[weener lad]

Any thoughts of having this while dieting for comp? I realize its not the best but just how bad could it be.

[Flamer]

Well, it's atrificial, so reasonably bad. What is the sodium content?

[bj powerL]

Ingredients: carbonated water, sodium citrate, taurine, glucuronolactone,caffeine, acesulfame k, aspartame, inositol, xanthan gum, niacinamide, calcium pantothenate, pyridoxine hcl, vitamin b12, artificial flavors, colors

Nutrition Facts: serving size 1 can; calories 10; fat 0g; sodium 200mg; total carb 3g; sugars og; protein less than 1g; niacin 100%; vitamin b6 250%; vitamin b12 80%; pantothenic acid 50%

Also here are some links for you:

http://209.85.141.104/search?q=cache:Y_u_9W3AvFAJ:www.safefood.org.nz/news10.htm+diet+red+bull&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=9&gl=nz (go to redbull scare)

then think about the sweetener: aspartame: http://dorway.com/dorwblog/?page_id=17

Unfortunately bud it's also being used in some supplements and protein powders...guess it's just a matter or buyer beware and if you believe the hype.

[samoan_muscle]

Any thoughts of having this while dieting for comp? I realize its not the best but just how bad could it be.

Nothing wrong with it...go for it..I drink heaps of it.

What these other guys are saying is that it's not good for your health...doesnt affect your prep at all - is an aid actually.

[Optimass]

Any thoughts of having this while dieting for comp? I realize its not the best but just how bad could it be.

Nothing wrong with it...go for it..I drink heaps of it.

What these other guys are saying is that it's not good for your health...doesnt affect your prep at all - is an aid actually.

Yeah caffine will boost your resting heart rate and sodium can be flushed out through water loading.

[weener lad]

yeah I have to say I don't believe in the scare longer stuff. Had 2 cans a day for 7 years before quiting because of how much I had spent.

Thought I ask because no xplode was banned and I seem to get the same go from red bull 4 kre- alyks and 2 taurine.

[bj powerL]

just coz you haven't felt the effects now bud, doesn't mean you won't eventually, :shifty:

[weener lad]

just coz you haven't felt the effects now bud, doesn't mean you won't eventually, :shifty:

If you can show me the scientific data saying this stuff will kill you I will stop! :shock:

I have been getting medicals every year for the last 11 years and I'm healthier now than ever. So definatly no harm so far

[AgentOrange]

get some 500ml barrels and start hitting that shit up.

[2guns]

there was that guy who drank 10cans not so long ago and stopped breathing lol!! remember?

[bj powerL]

just coz you haven't felt the effects now bud, doesn't mean you won't eventually, :shifty:

If you can show me the scientific data saying this stuff will kill you I will stop! :shock:

I have been getting medicals every year for the last 11 years and I'm healthier now than ever. So definatly no harm so far

was simply alerting you of possible dangers bud, not telling you not to drink the stuff, congradz on your A1 tests, you posted a question about redbull so I can you some links that's all dude :clap:

[bj powerL]

oops I mean I GAVE you the links (typo)

[Flex]

If you can show me the scientific data saying this stuff will kill you I will stop! :shock:

mmmm Aspartame, yummy. Give me the fully leaded version over diet version any day. I wouldn't touch aspartame with a very long and woody barge pushing pole. There certainly is a lot of scare mongering going on around aspartame but when something looks like shit and smells like shit it means it probably is.

Scientific proof eh, man I wish I was a scientist. I could get people to believe everything I say. It's lucky that scientists have time to study this stuff otherwise no one would believe anyone about anything.

Scientific proof that aspartame will kill you:

http://www.google.co.nz/search?hl=en&sa ... arch&meta=

Diet Coke can Kill - Aspartame Documentary 1h 30min

http://hight3ch.com/post/diet-coke-can- ... -1h-30min/

New Cancer Study Obligates FDA To Recall Aspartame

"For 16 years FDA rejected aspartame because of brain tumors. Then Don Rumsfeld, CEO of G. D. Searle Co, went to Washington with Reagan and the next day his buddy Arthur Hayes was appointed FDA Commissioner. To avoid any action against aspartame by the outgoing Commissioner an executive freeze order was ordered by Ronald Reagan treacherously making him powerless till Hayes got to town. Reagan was a tragic Alzheimer's victim, a dread affliction aspartame invokes. It is rumored he was addicted to Equal, this brain eradicating neurotoxin, and memory loss is number 9 on your list of 92 symptoms, right under seizures, number 8.

Now Hayes approved aspartame over the objections of his own scientific Board of Inquiry. Searle was in money trouble until Hayes, Rumsfeld's stooge, opened the golden door. Hayes soon was under investigation for conflict-of-interest, so he escaped with a 10-year consulting contract from Searle's PR firm for a reported $1,000/day. Consultants don't need to show up for work; just answer questions on the phone" - http://www.rense.com/general69/assp.htm

I know you only wanted proof to show it would kill you and this one only shows it causes cancer but thought other people might be interested.

First Experimental Demonstration of the Multipotential Carcinogenic Effects

of Aspartame Administered in the Feed to Sprague-Dawley Rats

Morando Soffritti, Fiorella Belpoggi, Davide Degli Esposti, Luca Lambertini, Eva Tibaldi, and Anna Rigano

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/picren ... obtype=pdf

Our study shows that Aspartame is a multipotential carcinogenic compound whose carcinogenic effects are evident even at a daily dose of 20 mg/kg bw, much less than the current ADI for humans in Europe (40 mg/kg bw) and in the United States (50 mg/kg bw).

The results of carcinogenicity bioassays in rodents are consistent predictors of human cancer risks (Huff 1999; Rall 1995; Tomatis et al. 1989). The results of our study therefore call for an urgent reexamination of the present guidelines on the use and consumption Aspartame carcinogenicity of APM. The decision to use experimental data to protect public health is important because the time span of widespread APM use is still too brief to have produced solid epidemiologic data. Moreover, it is unlikely that sufficient epidemiologic data will be available in the near future, given the difficulty of finding a control group that has not been exposed to this widely diffused compound.

[weener lad]

damn flex there's some heavy reading in those links. Food for thought indeed perhaps stock standard redbull might be better.

yeah sorry jk I re read that post and it came across a bit arrogant. Wasn't intended sorry

[WeightForIt]

just coz you haven't felt the effects now bud, doesn't mean you won't eventually, :shifty:

I agree totally! Why bother with 'poor' forms of energy in the first place?! It's the worst way of maintaining energy. Energy drinks use carbs which give you short bursts of energy. So, what's the answer? Burn fat. It gives you long, constant, natural, raw energy. Which is safer and better for the body.

Usually I don't give away any of my workout secrets, but this aspartame topic is serious and needs to be addressed. (So I'll give you a natural remedy and you won't need this bull drink).

I work full-time in energy medicine - improving the body's natural energy flow and what I've noticed is that anyone who drinks or eats aspartame has a diminished energy level. This is because aspartame blocks the cells signal receptors (creating something like an energy blockage). The energy I'm talking about is the flow of energy via the meridians, or chi. This energy is your lifeforce and when it's blocked, it can affect the body, organs, functions etc at very refined levels. A medical doctor won't diagnose this or even know what it is, because it's not in their training, but an energy medicine practitioner will find it. Most doctors will send you to a variety of specialists, costing you a small fortune in money and time and still not find the cause.

I've just started using a new product which burns stored fat to produce energy. This is the way SMART body builders increase their energy. Ronnie Coleman, the guy who won Mr Olympia 8 times and bet Arnie's records, has been using this product for 5 years to increase energy, burn fat, build muscle and reduce pain and is still going strong!

Like I said, normally I wouldn't give away my own techniques, but it concerns me that a body builder's health is at risk because they are not taking good precautions and using more natural ways of improving energy production.

The company I get this 'energy' product from is http://www.nanonano.com.au. The product range is called LifeWave. The product is sensational. I watched two guys today use the energy product - which immediately boosts energy - to demonstrate how quickly it works. They performed a friendly arm wrestling match and watching them blew all of us away. There was an older guy (who was weaker, and had not won an arm wrestling match for ages) and a young guy (who wins all the time). The guys did one match without the product and the young guy won easily. They then placed the LifeWave product on the wrists of the older guy and unbelievely, he won the next playoff with this young guy! The young guy was absolutely bewidered! And the old guy was so impressed! It was so cool to watch. 8)

When you watch it happen in front of you, you won't believe it works, so you must try it for yourself. I didn't believe it was real until I tried it. So, get the Energy Enhancer product. Place white on right and tan on left. The guys at nanonano have all the details on their site.

What I won't tell you is how I use this product range to build muscle, this is where I sign off. :wink:

Go natural guys, keep it real, no bull. 8)

Ciao, Tom.

WeightForIt