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which whey isolates to buy.

MBasevi

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Hennie Senior member

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Just a note......

Isolates come in much more expensive than concentrates and is obviously more pure ,but remember buying a pure isolate product could be like filling an old car with high octane fuel and expecting it to perform much better. Your body will have its limit in the amount of protein it can absorb at a time. Say for instance yours is exactly 23grams at a time it won't matter too much if that 23grams is made out of whey isolates or whey concentrates,you could end up spending a lot on that extra 2grams of protein per serving.......

Best value for money seems to be a blend of whey isolates and concentrates

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cheers hennie. iv ended up buying one of your products anyway to try it. which i guess uv figured out. im not big on understanding all the big words, (parents and brother all in the medical profession, me, im a mechanic) they very frequently lose me in conversation. so dnt realy understand it al but im trying. i was just told that for a protein shake straight after gym/exersize an isolate would be best.

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Yup then a isolate is better,the ON100% Whey is a combination of Isolates and concentrates, that was what I also had in mind. I though you were maybe reffering to a pure isolate powder which could be up to 50% more expensive without 50% more advantage... On 100% Whey is the best selling whey in the world.

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Hahaha Hennie I think you mean "Hardcore Supplements at Superior Prices", rather than "Superior Supplements at Hardcore Prices" :lol:

Nope ,should be as it is......... Your version makes sense easier but I like things with a bit of a twist :grin:

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ironmaiden Junior member

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Quality vs Quantity.

If Whey Concentrates are fine to use, then why not just use powdered milk, plenty of protein for cheap. Why dont we just drink Skim Milk all day???

How much protein listed on the side of the packet per serving means very little. Its how many of the aminos within are actually absorbed and used to build muscle that counts.

Id rather use 10grams of WPI than 100g of WPC for the same price.

Liquid Free Form Amino Acids are superior again.

THe protein in concentrate is the same as isolate Bluto, just isolate has even more of the lactose and fat removed, hence isolates have 90-92% protein per 100g and concentrate has 80g protein per 100 gram (as is, not breported as dry weight).

Skim milk is not even in the league of WPC? What Hennie has said is good common sense and aimed at those who want best bang for buck. I could go on but AO needs whipping :pfft:

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Quality vs Quantity.

If Whey Concentrates are fine to use, then why not just use powdered milk, plenty of protein for cheap. Why dont we just drink Skim Milk all day???

How much protein listed on the side of the packet per serving means very little. Its how many of the aminos within are actually absorbed and used to build muscle that counts.

Id rather use 10grams of WPI than 100g of WPC for the same price.

Liquid Free Form Amino Acids are superior again.

THe protein in concentrate is the same as isolate Bluto, just isolate has even more of the lactose and fat removed, hence isolates have 90-92% protein per 100g and concentrate has 80g protein per 100 gram (as is, not breported as dry weight).

Skim milk is not even in the league of WPC? What Hennie has said is good common sense and aimed at those who want best bang for buck. I could go on but AO needs whipping :pfft:

Try this then, use WPC for all of your protein source. Just eat carbs and fats but use only WPC for your daily protein requirement. If you can stomach it then go hard, I bet you will be visiting the toilet alot and bloated with gas all day.

Now try it with WPI, I know which one Id prefer to be using to grow.

Milks for babies, Adults are not designed to drink lactose.

i have and i dont, must be a man thing that bloated gassy stuff?? agree tho, WPI is clean and smooth, but cost while trying to grow..couldnt afford isolate when i was younger and not earning much, now i like my fillet steak too! :lol:

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Quality vs Quantity.

If Whey Concentrates are fine to use, then why not just use powdered milk, plenty of protein for cheap. Why dont we just drink Skim Milk all day???

How much protein listed on the side of the packet per serving means very little. Its how many of the aminos within are actually absorbed and used to build muscle that counts.

Id rather use 10grams of WPI than 100g of WPC for the same price.

Liquid Free Form Amino Acids are superior again.

THe protein in concentrate is the same as isolate Bluto, just isolate has even more of the lactose and fat removed, hence isolates have 90-92% protein per 100g and concentrate has 80g protein per 100 gram (as is, not breported as dry weight).

Skim milk is not even in the league of WPC? What Hennie has said is good common sense and aimed at those who want best bang for buck. I could go on but AO needs whipping :pfft:

Try this then, use WPC for all of your protein source. Just eat carbs and fats but use only WPC for your daily protein requirement. If you can stomach it then go hard, I bet you will be visiting the toilet alot and bloated with gas all day.

Now try it with WPI, I know which one Id prefer to be using to grow.

Milks for babies, when you grow up you have to drink beer

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Milks for babies, Adults are not designed to drink lactose.

Sorry to say Bluto but the reason we have lactase enzyme in our stomach is to digest lactose. Unfortunatately humans are not designed to ingest beta-lactalbumin. It's the only microfraction present in cows milk that isn't found in mothers milk, and is isolated more in WPI's than WPC's, so often more people will be more allergic to a WPI. It's true that as we age our ability to digest lactose reduces due to a degradation of our natural lactase enzyme (ageing, food poisoning, antibiotics) but with the use of digestive enzymes a lot of the problems can be avoided.

Many people argue that a good WPC is a better protein as it is more biologically intact than the majority of WPI's as it is less denatured and retains all of the important immunologically beneficial protein fractions. Some of these fractions are destroyed by acid used in IEWPI, or reduced to negligible levels as some are only contained in the fat content. As far as immune system and overall health and recovery is concerned a blend of both WPI and WPC can be the best choice and save money at the same time.

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Milks for babies, Adults are not designed to drink lactose.

pfft says who?

BLUTO SAID SO! Haha so it has to be true. Besides Arnold i think said the milk for babies thing didnt he? So if that is so then it is body building gospel and anything else must be blasphemy! :pfft:

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Well i dont no about anyone else but i didnt understand anything thats been said here. human bodies are too bloody confusing. give me and engine and ill make it go betta than ever. but put a human in front and all i cud do is make it stop.

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you'll be ok bud, take it one step at a time, sometimes it is a bit of a brain drain but there are some pretty clued up people here so take the best of what you do understand and just ask to move a little slower on the stuff you don't

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