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Hmm. I'd be a little sceptical on the basis that all the pages on that site seem to have the same content. Seems a little odd to me.

Anyway, what's the difference between their "C9-T11" CLA, and the regular stuff? Apart from the hyperbole, that is...

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came across this banner on the side over there >>>>

i got no idea how it works or whats in it

so what do the experts have to say >??

http://www.freakyhuge.com/

Buy some...it works just like the ads say it does.

I tried some yesterday and today I am a fricking monster :nod:

:pfft: yea yea sure, but seriously any merit to it ? says they ship to new zealand so someone must of tryd it :shifty:

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This is the study they reference at the top of the page

http://www.acsm-msse.org/pt/re/msse/abs ... 28!8091!-1

The Effects of Conjugated Linoleic Acid Supplementation during Resistance Training.

APPLIED SCIENCES

Medicine & Science in Sports & Exercise. 38(2):339-348, February 2006.

PINKOSKI, CRAIG 1; CHILIBECK, PHILIP D. 1; CANDOW, DARREN G. 1; ESLIGER, DALE 1; EWASCHUK, JULIA B. 2; FACCI, MARINA 3; FARTHING, JONATHAN P. 1; ZELLO, GORDON A. 2

Abstract:

Purpose: We determined the effects of conjugated linoleic acid (CLA) supplementation during resistance training.

Methods: Seventy-six subjects were randomized to receive CLA (5 g[middle dot]d-1) or placebo (PLA) for 7 wk while resistance training 3 d[middle dot]wk-1. Seventeen subjects crossed over to the opposite group for an additional 7 wk. Measurements at baseline, 7 wk, and 14 wk (for subjects in the crossover study) included body composition, muscle thickness of the elbow flexors and knee extensors, resting metabolic rate (RMR), bench and leg press strength, knee extension torque, and urinary markers of myofibrillar degradation (3-methylhistidine (3MH) and bone resorption (cross-linked N-telopeptides (Ntx)).

Results: After 7 wk the CLA group had greater increases in lean tissue mass (LTM) (+1.4 vs +0.2 kg; P < 0.05), greater losses of fat mass (-0.8 vs +0.4 kg; P < 0.05), and a smaller increase in 3MH (-0.1 vs + 1.3 [mu]mol[middle dot]kg-1 LTM[middle dot]d-1; P < 0.05) compared with PLA. Changes between groups were similar for all other measurements, except for a greater increase in bench press strength for males on CLA (P < 0.05). In the crossover study subjects had minimal changes in body composition, but smaller increases in 3MH (-1.2 vs +2.2 [mu]mol[middle dot]kg-1 LTM[middle dot]d-1; P < 0.01) and NTx (-4.8 vs +7.3 nmol[middle dot]kg-1 LTM[middle dot]d-1; P < 0.01) while on CLA versus PLA.

Conclusions: Supplementation with CLA during resistance training results in relatively small changes in body composition accompanied by a lessening of the catabolic effect of training on muscle protein.

©2006The American College of Sports Medicine

I'm not sure where the 700% more muscle bit comes from - unless relatively small changes in body composition means 700% more muscle. The photo's of "D Jefferys" are images out of an old Muscle Media mag - I pretty sure his name is David Kennedy and he was one of the science researchers and then editor in chief for Muscle Media mag for a few years. I should have the magazine with it in somewhere around.

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According to recent scientific research from Memphis University, C9-T11 literally

synthesizes lean muscle tissue from your fat deposits.

:shock:

You mean all these years people were right about converting fat to muscle?!! AND ONLY FOR 37$!!!!!

GIMME SUM OF DEM MAGIK PILLZ!!!!

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Results: After 7 wk the CLA group had greater increases in lean tissue mass (LTM) (+1.4 vs +0.2 kg; P < 0.05),

I'm not sure where the 700% more muscle bit comes from

Just read the results properly - now I see where 700% comes from - 1.4kg vs 0.2kg = 700% more muscle. Still not sure I'd buy it.

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Man, everyone on this site has obviously been wasting their time. It's this easy:

"Man... this stuff really freaking works! I was skeptical at first but decided

to try it since there was a 100% money-back guarantee. Well, after just one

week of taking C9-T11, I gained 7 pounds of solid muscle. My arms are

getting HUGE... it feels like my biceps are going to rip my arm sleeves.

What's more, the fat on my abs is melting away, and I now have a set of

six-pack abs! Just check out my before and after pics below. The guys at the

gym think I'm on 'roids LOL! It's been 4 weeks now, and I've packed on

23 lbs of rock-hard muscle!!! F*ck yeah!!! This stuff is the BOMB!

-David Jeffery, Boulder, Colorado

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Man, everyone on this site has obviously been wasting their time. It's this easy:

"Man... this stuff really freaking works! I was skeptical at first but decided

to try it since there was a 100% money-back guarantee. Well, after just one

week of taking C9-T11, I gained 7 pounds of solid muscle. My arms are

getting HUGE... it feels like my biceps are going to rip my arm sleeves.

What's more, the fat on my abs is melting away, and I now have a set of

six-pack abs! Just check out my before and after pics below. The guys at the

gym think I'm on 'roids LOL! It's been 4 weeks now, and I've packed on

23 lbs of rock-hard muscle!!! F*ck yeah!!! This stuff is the BOMB!

-David Jeffery, Boulder, Colorado

yeeeea... :lol: i thought they brung in laws in america which stopped supplement companys making outragous and bogus claims anymore...

google says:

C9-T11 is one of the compounds found in cla. It is the one that will make you gain muscle mass without the fat loss. If you could actually get this derivitive, PURE C9-T11, of cla it would cause great muscle gain. I have yet to get a response from the advertisers of the c9-t11 as to if it is the pure extract. cla has several compounds and is found in safflower and sunflower seed oil. t12 and t13 or 14 are also found in cla. They are responsible for fat loss. Does this stuff cause muscle gain, absolutely. Do you gain 20 lbs in a month, of course not. Does it cause fat loss, abolutely. Side effects are low dha levels in the heart and liver

so in summary, its bullshit :grin:

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Man, everyone on this site has obviously been wasting their time. It's this easy:

"Man... this stuff really freaking works! I was skeptical at first but decided

to try it since there was a 100% money-back guarantee. Well, after just one

week of taking C9-T11, I gained 7 pounds of solid muscle. My arms are

getting HUGE... it feels like my biceps are going to rip my arm sleeves.

What's more, the fat on my abs is melting away, and I now have a set of

six-pack abs! Just check out my before and after pics below. The guys at the

gym think I'm on 'roids LOL! It's been 4 weeks now, and I've packed on

23 lbs of rock-hard muscle!!! F*ck yeah!!! This stuff is the BOMB!

-David Jeffery, Boulder, Colorado

yeeeea... :lol: i thought they brung in laws in america which stopped supplement companys making outragous and bogus claims anymore...

google says:

C9-T11 is one of the compounds found in cla. It is the one that will make you gain muscle mass without the fat loss. If you could actually get this derivitive, PURE C9-T11, of cla it would cause great muscle gain. I have yet to get a response from the advertisers of the c9-t11 as to if it is the pure extract. cla has several compounds and is found in safflower and sunflower seed oil. t12 and t13 or 14 are also found in cla. They are responsible for fat loss. Does this stuff cause muscle gain, absolutely. Do you gain 20 lbs in a month, of course not. Does it cause fat loss, abolutely. Side effects are low dha levels in the heart and liver

so in summary, its bullshit :grin:

it reaks of t-max ,sorry dale lol

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MrN :naughty: Fuk you're at it again. Tmax cant fix severe impotence problems and you were toold that! Its designed to assist in restoring you to proper function only or were you referring to its muscle building results? Not sure from the post. There are always some for whom it wont work and hence Viagra may be your best option and your using the gear so of course it isnt going to work when your natural levels of testosterone are being suppressed so heavily.

Now hows that gym of yours doing? Mate of mine let me know where you were located yesterday.

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