test dosages

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[mr natural]

sus 250 eod?

[samoan_muscle]

Just thought id see what people have been running and the results etc.

Im running a ml of UG sust EOD at the mo with no sides and 7 weeks in up 9kg

What everyone else doing or have done?

No need for the anti gear brigaide to chime in i dont give a sh*t what you have to say on this subject

NZPT

I shoot up about a gram of test (on average) every week...wish I could do more but I can't afford it...one day I want to run 2grams of test per week for a considerable period of time and see what the results would be like...

[IronGame]

At the moment 100mg test prop/week. Im in the last week of my six week status/taper period then im "off". I will add that in general im feeling great, no sides, lots of energy etc.

In the past I have been on up to 2000mg test/week plus tren and orals but to be honest it was a waste of time and I could bearly train coz I felt like shit all the time, couldn't eat and had wicked lower back pumps all day and night.

I think the sweet spot for me is about 1000mg test/week and a little tren and mast to top it off. Not big on orals generally

[mr natural]

are you gonna tape off?ie wk 1 80 mg wk2 60 mg wk3 40mg wk4 20 mg?

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[mr natural]

sus 250 eod?

yes

wicked lower back pumps all day and night.

That would suck, i get them on back and then leg days and its almost unberable. somedays are worse then others.

Are you guys running UG or pharm grade gear?

Think a mite start running tren, for those who do how to you split your dosages? ED, EOD or every 3rd day?

depends whjat ester of tren you running,acetate either ed or eod,enathate e4d, 300mgs a week should be a decent dose for most people.

personaly if you run both i would drop down the sust to around 400 mg a week

your running around 800mg a week at the moment.

I don't often get bad lower back pumps, are you sure its a gear thing and not a lifting/technique issue?

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[mr natural]

prob run tren A.

Yeah def gear, ive trained the same when off and it never happens, then about 4-5 weeks on cycle it starts up again. Plus ive got relativly good form.

i get mean pumps when training and on but when its in the lower back its really intense and takes almost an hour to releive.

i would run the tren A ed,you could do eod if you want to cut down on injections as theoreticly tren A has a half life of around 1.4 days.

Simple question but do you use a weight belt? and what exercises set if off?

i presume squats,deadlifts bent over rows.

deadlifts followed by bent over rows get's mine pretty tight so i tend to do more chins and cable rows to avoid the issue.

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[NZPT]

oh and what dosage per day with the tren A would you recomend? ive never done tren before

[mr natural]

oh and what dosage per day with the tren A would you recomend? ive never done tren before

well i was getting pretty decent gains off 300 mg a week alone unstacked.

depending on how well you respond i would recommend either 50mg ed or if you want to be a little more on the light side 75mg eod.

thats how im gonna run it very shortly.

250-300mg of tren a week and around the same amount of test.

[IronGame]

Tren A 50-75mg/day I would def do every day to avoid fluctuations.

Or even better 350mg tren E shot 2x/week seems to work well for most

Though a better option may be masteron as it binds to SHBG and thus will leave more of the testosterone you are using unbound and active, bigger bang for your buck so to speak.

Yes it is gear related for me to, and its not just when I train its there all day, even wake up at night from the pain. But again only with that high dose.

I use UG gear, I doubt many people are using real pharma gear (produced by a pharmaceutical company registered to manufacture pharmaceuticals for human use) even if they think they are.

[mr natural]

Tren A 50-75mg/day I would def do every day to avoid fluctuations.

Or even better 350mg tren E shot 2x/week seems to work well for most

Though a better option may be masteron as it binds to SHBG and thus will leave more of the testosterone you are using unbound and active, bigger bang for your buck so to speak.

Yes it is gear related for me to, and its not just when I train its there all day, even wake up at night from the pain. But again only with that high dose.

I use UG gear, I doubt many people are using real pharma gear (produced by a pharmaceutical company registered to manufacture pharmaceuticals for human use) even if they think they are.

you don't wanna do 700mg of tren a week stacked with test too.

do you do any ab strengthening stuff?,just a suggestion if you have a tight back all day.your lower back might be way out of balance with your ab strength.

[IronGame]

I would suggest running your tren at around 1/3 your test dose.

On a side note a little while back I got some mislabled tren.

I thought I was using 75mg tren ace e/d but in fact I was using 200mg tren E e/d for a total of 1400mg/week extremly unplesant, took a couple of months to realise this is why I was feeling this way.

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[IronGame]

No not 700mg/week. 350mg a week devided in to two shots.

I do not have the back problem when im on a moderate dose so that tells me that it is not an imbalence. Lower back pump/pain is one of the most common sides of moderate/high AAS use.

[mr natural]

thanks for the reply.

Might look into getting some tren soon then and run at 50mg per day.

200mg a day! holy crap, did you have sides like no tomorow? you must of been as strong and angry as a gorrilla!

and pimply as a mother fuker,any hair loss? rasin size nuts? lol

[mr natural]

No not 700mg/week. 350mg a week devided in to two shots.

I do not have the back problem when im on a moderate dose so that tells me that it is not an imbalence. Lower back pump/pain is one of the most common sides of moderate/high AAS use.

simple,stop taking so much then.

[IronGame]

thanks for the reply.

Might look into getting some tren soon then and run at 50mg per day.

200mg a day! holy crap, did you have sides like no tomorow? you must of been as strong and angry as a gorrilla!

I dont get increased aggression no matter what I take but yes strength was rediculous, but far outweighed by sides, always tired but couldn't sleep, no sex drive, food made me sick, everything hurt. high blood pressure, red in the face, trouble breathing. But in saying that I know of powerlifters who use 2gm of tren alone every week and love it, not for me though.

No acne, hairloss or shrivled nuts fortunatly

[IronGame]

No not 700mg/week. 350mg a week devided in to two shots.

I do not have the back problem when im on a moderate dose so that tells me that it is not an imbalence. Lower back pump/pain is one of the most common sides of moderate/high AAS use.

simple,stop taking so much then.

LOL seems like you read what you want to and skip the rest.

I said I had been up to that dose and didn't like it, then explained why and then gave a dose that I felt was suitable for me ( 1gm/week)

[mr natural]

thanks for the reply.

Might look into getting some tren soon then and run at 50mg per day.

200mg a day! holy crap, did you have sides like no tomorow? you must of been as strong and angry as a gorrilla!

I dont get increased aggression no matter what I take but yes strength was rediculous, but far outweighed by sides, always tired but couldn't sleep, no sex drive, food made me sick, everything hurt. high blood pressure, red in the face, trouble breathing. But in saying that I know of powerlifters who use 2gm of tren alone every week and love it, not for me though.

No acne, hairloss or shrivled nuts fortunatly

2000mg a week! thats sick.

[mr natural]

i've always done morderate to low doses and got good results.

Never had a problem with bad continous back pumps.

Was suggesting a solution based on that.I read what you had to say.

[IronGame]

thanks for the reply.

Might look into getting some tren soon then and run at 50mg per day.

200mg a day! holy crap, did you have sides like no tomorow? you must of been as strong and angry as a gorrilla!

I dont get increased aggression no matter what I take but yes strength was rediculous, but far outweighed by sides, always tired but couldn't sleep, no sex drive, food made me sick, everything hurt. high blood pressure, red in the face, trouble breathing. But in saying that I know of powerlifters who use 2gm of tren alone every week and love it, not for me though.

No acne, hairloss or shrivled nuts fortunatly

2000mg a week! thats sick.

I know and pretty stupid if you ask me.

[IronGame]

i've always done morderate to low doses and got good results.

Never had a problem with bad continous back pumps.

Was suggesting a solution based on that.I read what you had to say.

Agreed low/moderate doses will yeald better results in the long run. I concider 1gm/week of test moderate for an intermediate/advanced user.