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There is no right answer here unfortunatly, some guys run it right through the show (even do shots the day of) others will tell you 10 - 14 days. Its all trial and error, if you are lean enough you should get away with running it right up. Do you hold alot of water when on the substances you will be using? and will you be using diuretics?

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Thanks Irongame, I do tend to hold water but have always used a long estered test in my cycles, I have not yet used prop so not sure how this will react with me in terms of water retention. I intend to use diuretics this time round but have little experience with them. What diuretics would you recommend and how should I use them?

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