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mike zero... why do u disagree? is it because u have not had stunted growth?

maybe u just arnt lifting heavy enough weights, eva thought of that?

Don't look that tall either! So maybe a case in point and lifting heavy weights do stunt growth??!!

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My mates little step bro is 8 years old and hes been picking up my mates weights everyday in his garage trying to lift so I told him to do 3 sets of 12 of benchpress,military and bicep curls everyday, hes skinny as and keen to learn so it's good, no need to cofuse the boy with protein,carbs etc, he only uses about 3kgs for all of them but it's better than just picking up the weights and swinging them around.

I don't see how it could stunt growth. I mean everybody wants to be as tall as possible but your genetics make up for that...just take it easy until you're 16 would be my advice.

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Yes, i do have evidence that support my statement.

1. http://www.teenhealthfx.com/answers/Sports/1437.html

2. Doctors think it unwise for young people to begin weight training until about two years before they reach maturity, which, on average, is age 14 for females and age 16 for males.

"Premature weight lifting might stunt your growth," said Dr. Jan Grudziak, an orthopedic surgeon at Children's Hospital. "If you lift weights too soon, the ultimate growth of the bone might be affected."

( http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06221/711989-114.stm )

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im 6'2 was in the weights room when i was 13 (not really knowing much but still pushing round weight) so god knows how tall id be if it stunted my growth!haha.

i train 13 year olds just work more on the pump and good technique with controlled exercises (machines preferably) rather then heavy potentally dangerous power and strength work.

kids get a pounding in rugby (probably more damage to the growth plates) , id train 2 nights a week plus play on saturday and every lunch time at school (full contact) and so have many other NZ males and you dont see a nation full of midgets do you.

it all comes down to....................GENETICS

NZPT

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My mates little step bro is 8 years old and hes been picking up my mates weights everyday in his garage trying to lift so I told him to do 3 sets of 12 of benchpress,military and bicep curls everyday, hes skinny as and keen to learn so it's good, no need to cofuse the boy with protein,carbs etc, he only uses about 3kgs for all of them but it's better than just picking up the weights and swinging them around.

I don't see how it could stunt growth. I mean everybody wants to be as tall as possible but your genetics make up for that...just take it easy until you're 16 would be my advice.

The young fulla's going to develope a terrible posture doing only those 3 movements over an extended period of time, make sure you give him some prosterior chain/pulling exercises i.e. 1 arm row, rack pullups.

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I did mainly bodyweight exercise, chins then weighted chins, dips, barbell curls and dumbbell curls, bench pressing but did not squat or deadlift (no compression at age 13), introduced that from 15 onwards with higher reps then started hitting serious weights with deadlifts and squats from 16 upwards. Word of warning, don't come up so fast that you bounce the weight on your back! I did with 260 for reps before my 18th and screwed my mid-back semi crushing a disc..stuffed me up for many years. Good technique (if only I had listened) would have saved a lot of problems so dont be afaid to go hard with all the non-compression exercises and with caution on the squats and deadlifts.

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I have read some studies that show the stunt of growth due to heavy weights, however the ones i read about had not changed the nutrition to suit the change in activity hence removing the required nutrients to maintain healthy skeletal growth. That is a 13 yr old growing up on jam sandwiches and three meals can not lift and grow muscle if they continue to maintain that style of eating. Further studies have shown that weight lifting increases bone density, which is desireable in youths. A further example of starting young is Arnold .S. starting young still grew tall. this would be due to a high protein and calcium diet(possibly typical of 1950's austria). Saying that some of the old boys say that weight training at any age is fine, however under 15 boys should concentrate on calistenic style training, chins, and push ups. personally i think you are never too young to start weight training. as long as you are sensible and the nutrition and rest is there. It would also be important to ensure other sports are used to vary lifestyle in the younger.

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a 13 yr old growing up on jam sandwiches and three meals can not lift and grow muscle if they continue to maintain that style of eating

Aint that the truth, being a farm boy breakfast was normally what I cooked while the parents were milking cows, so it was porridge first and steak, eggs, bacon etc for breakfast. Toast and jam was for the skinny little town boys!

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Come on Mike, you're allowed to call BS, but you know you've got to come up with the studies too. :)

Fair enough but

God is true, hasn't been studies to prove otherwise. Soooooooo....

Don't look that tall either!

whos doesnt?

Mike Zero!

I'm 5'11". 'bout the same height as my older bro, who has done crap all gym training until recently.

Not that that proves the whole argument or anything.

maybe u just arnt lifting heavy enough weights, eva thought of that?

lol not biting bro :pfft:

I'd happily eat my words if someone posts a decent study.

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The burden of proof is on those who claim lifting stunts your growth, not those who say you will grow as usual. Real scientific studies please... not the junk that passes for an expert opinion. I could prove to you that if you don't drink my urine, you will die. That fact means nothing.

I got told by a doctor that my shoulder is not a load bearing joint and I shouldn't be lifting weights. They've got an agenda against anything remotely straining.

Seriously, how is doing a squat or deadlift going to mess your height up in any way more than playing rugby would? Half of the people here are just machine junkies anyway, it's not like you're trying to lift double bodyweight overhead or anything. Going to get a pump at your local fitness centre is hardly dangerous, no?

Things like malnourishment stunt your growth, not lifting. Unless you smash up a growth plate in some way, it's not going to do anything to you. Ripping your knee apart and damaging the growth plates while squatting 4 bills a side at 14 might stunt your growth.

The children of NZ already have increasingly worse eating and exercise habits. The last thing you want to do is keep teens out the gym too.

Enough of this rubbish. Start lifting when you want to and use your brain. No need to put an age on it.

-Jono 'unfortunately only 6'4, could have been like 6'9 or something if he'd waited till 21 to start'

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Jono 'unfortunately only 6'4, could have been like 6'9 or something if he'd waited till 21 to start'

well there's your real world proof! you should have done static tension movements only or maybe pilates and think how much taller you could have been! :pfft:

lifting definitely doesnt stunt growth so start young, train smart, listen to experience and strive to improve and you will do fine is the message i would think

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