proposed 1st cycle

[mclovin]

500mg test e for 24 weeks

[IronGame]

To long, 12 weeks @ 500mg is a perfect 1st cycle.

[Luigi]

mclovins gonna do a cycle, alllrriiiiiiiiiitte giggity giggity

just test ? ...... how is test by itself in a cycle ?

[deegee]

12 weeks is just finr or if you want to see results early in the cycle kick it off with some dbol for first 4 weeks of your test.

[mclovin]

just test ? ...... how is test by itself in a cycle ?

as the saying goes test is best , long test only cycles are very common , maybe not 24 weeks like i have planned but i am only going with 500mg, one shot weekly .

[mclovin]

oh and nolva 40/40/20/20 run with clomid 100/50/50/50 pct

[Goldberg]

As Irongame said, 12 weeks is fine, 24 weeks will just take longer to recover from and make you more likely to experience side effects.

[MUSCLEROIDS]

just test ? ...... how is test by itself in a cycle ?

as the saying goes test is best , long test only cycles are very common , maybe not 24 weeks like i have planned but i am only going with 500mg, one shot weekly .

If this is your first cycle and you are under 25yrs then I would run 1ml every 5th day to keep your levels up. Then when you do the second cycle you can go monday 1ml and thursday 1ml.

[mclovin]

im 29 , ur suggesting 250mg every 5 days muscleroids thats a little low i think

[Paul]

im 29 , ur suggesting 250mg every 5 days muscleroids thats a little low i think

I would get my diet and training dialed before even looking at this as an option do you feel you have tapped out your natural potential .

[IronGame]

The law of deminishing returns applies greatly here, you will do considerably better on 2 x 12 week cycles with at least 16 weeks in between than you will do from a 24 weeker. You should still shoot at least twice a week no matter what dose you decide on to keep blood plasma levels as stable as possable.

No point running nolva and clomid together as they are pretty much the same thing.

And you need to wait 2 full weeks after your last test shoot before you start PCT i.e. nolva OR clomid.

IMO you have chosen wisely doing test only and at a good dose to, but you need to iron out the major "details"

[ngapuhi strong]

got to say it fucks me off that it seams like all you guys just click your fingers and can find all this gear, i can get any party treat i want but don't do them, try and find some south of wellies its like looking for big foot

[2guns]

got to say it fucks me off that it seams like all you guys just click your fingers and can find all this gear, i can get any party treat i want but don't do them, try and find some south of wellies its like looking for big foot

well ther are heaos of juiced guy from south island who compete, besides ther is such thing as internet banking and courier post

[2guns]

everyone wants to stay on cycle longer, some do some dont.. see wat u feel like after your 10 weeks

[2guns]

do you feel you have tapped out your natural potential .

how did i knwo this would come up!?

probably one of the classic FAQ associated with cycles :roll:

u use the gear to surpass yr natural potential! so if uve reached it or not who gives a shit

[samoan_muscle]

do you feel you have tapped out your natural potential .

how did i knwo this would come up!?

probably one of the classic FAQ associated with cycles :roll:

u use the gear to surpass yr natural potential! so if uve reached it or not who gives a shit

Totally agree...who gives a shit!

[mclovin]

Totally agree...who gives a shit!

LMFAO , im agood 4 to 5 weeks away from starting, so plenty of time to iron out any loose ends , im happy to start juicing now, as in the last 10 years iv gained quite alot albiet off /on training iv alwys kept resonably fit and maintained a high degree of protein in my diet , just got back from a good run , as long as i keep my diet and cardio up to speed ill be on target , ill post pics when im ready

[NZPT]

just looking at your pics in the post your pics section and your a big boy already, how bout cutting down first then running a cycle. your body fats quite high. dont mean that offensively, Just an observation. spend 3 months dieting hard and getting in some decent cardio and you'l look better when you do decide to do a cycle and probly grow more after coming from a calorie restricted diet.

Just a thought, at the end of the day its your choice.

NZPT

[Marcus]

Agreed. I'd recommend trying to get your bodyfat down before you started your cycle.

[mclovin]

yea guys im well aware of getting leaner, weight at gym today just under 103 , so iv lost a good 8 kilos since the pics taken last year , working very hard with cardio now and also been on a few ephadrine fat burners , tell ya what ill post up pics in another month and you will see a fairly big change in definition , as long as i can keep getting out of the scratcher early :pfft:

[blairandkelly]

i agree with nzpt , iv seen your pics , already pretty big looking you will look mean as once the bf drops be patient and you wont have any regrets , just my 10 cents

[2guns]

ephadrine fat burners

wat sort? pure? and where from?

[mclovin]

i pmd you

[2guns]

thanks i wasnt personally looking, just wondering as its hard to get hold of generally

[mclovin]

i know , just didnt want to say out in open thts all