next cycle?

[deegee]

Who has a cycle planned? Got one planned for june, bit of a mixed bag of products, hopefuly will be the last before I get onto the real thingbefore the end of the year.

I will be interested to see who else has one planned

[Growth]

Are you gonna spill on the products you are planning to take? :grin: Once you go to the real thing you will never go back. Im assuming by real thing you mean injectables right?

[deegee]

yeah its a mixed bag because it will be using up the last of some stuff I have. all orals. m1t, andro, 4 ad. I also picked up a bottle of ergo after i heard how much everyone was loving it.

Need to plan how to put this together probably doing a 6 weeker

I deliberated some time beofre using the term "real stuff" not to say there is anytrhing not real about some of the ph compounds but as you said injectables are a stage up even if it is just psycological.

[Growth]

Yeah well youve got your M1T which is a steroid so you obviously arent just dealing with precursers anymore.

If it were me id split the andro and 4ad and use half with the M1T and the other half with the ergo, running them back to back. I guess it depends on how much of each product you have.

So are you planning injectables later on?

[deegee]

Thats pretty much what I am going to do the m1t and ergo are both methyls so i dont want to be taking them at the same time, got enough to see me through 6 weeks and a bit more I will just see how it goes when I start though.

I plan to run a test only inj later in the year if it gets through customs looking at some sust or similar not too many inj per week.

[Growth]

I plan to run a test only inj later in the year if it gets through customs looking at some sust or similar not too many inj per week.

Its not comming through in vials is it? Are you hoping they wont open the package or have you repackaged the test into a less conspicuous vessel?

If you dont mind me asking of course.

[deegee]

Havent made the purchase yet I will do so when I am next overseas going through asia , already priced and sourced can get in vials or in one bottle container. Will probably repackage and send to my home add or po box. Any advice on packaging etc welcome though, esp, if it helps get the goods through.

[Cornfed]

Havent made the purchase yet I will do so when I am next overseas going through asia , already priced and sourced can get in vials or in one bottle container. Will probably repackage and send to my home add or po box. Any advice on packaging etc welcome though, esp, if it helps get the goods through.

Have you considered importing the powder and extracting it into oil?

[Growth]

Havent made the purchase yet I will do so when I am next overseas going through asia , already priced and sourced can get in vials or in one bottle container. Will probably repackage and send to my home add or po box. Any advice on packaging etc welcome though, esp, if it helps get the goods through.

Repackaging is key if you ask me. Vials will almost certainly be stopped. If it were me i would repackage the goods alough you must be VERY careful to retain the upmost sterility of the good seeing as how your gonna be injecting it into yourself. I know of a few good ways to repackage but im not sure if i am allowed to say on the board.

Also if you dont mind me asking, how much will you be paying and what amount. Are you going with a straight test or a test blend. Test blends like sust offer extreme gains, however if its your first cycle you migth just want to stick to a test enanthate or similar.

[Pseudonym]

I know of a few good ways to repackage but im not sure if i am allowed to say on the board.

Hmmm... I can see this could become a bit of a minefield! But go for it - until you hear otherwise.

8)

[jono]

Havent made the purchase yet I will do so when I am next overseas going through asia , already priced and sourced can get in vials or in one bottle container. Will probably repackage and send to my home add or po box. Any advice on packaging etc welcome though, esp, if it helps get the goods through.

Repackaging is key if you ask me. Vials will almost certainly be stopped. If it were me i would repackage the goods alough you must be VERY careful to retain the upmost sterility of the good seeing as how your gonna be injecting it into yourself. I know of a few good ways to repackage but im not sure if i am allowed to say on the board.

Also if you dont mind me asking, how much will you be paying and what amount. Are you going with a straight test or a test blend. Test blends like sust offer extreme gains, however if its your first cycle you migth just want to stick to a test enanthate or similar.

lol. test e will give gains just as good as sust.

[Cornfed]

I know of a few good ways to repackage but im not sure if i am allowed to say on the board.

Even if allowed, it might kind of be letting the side down to discuss such details on an open board. Customs doesn't need any help.

On the subject of shipping, I would have thought you should get your source to ship the packages, as if they are intercepted you can always use the defence "who would have them send me something like that" or "they must have confused my order with someone else's". Also, most good sources will apparently reship if your stuff is seized.

[Growth]

lol. test e will give gains just as good as sust.

sorry i wasnt trying to imply that sust is more powerful than test e, just that people often experience better gains because it is fast acting and longer acting, one of the esters kicks in in about 3 days, while another lasts around 3 weeks but takes longer to act. However generally the faster acting a test product is the more side effects you will experience. That is why people often opt for a test e 1st cycle, problem is it will take a few weeks to start seeing anything, which doesnt matter all that much if you run it with an oral to help kickstart etc.

[Growth]

I know of a few good ways to repackage but im not sure if i am allowed to say on the board.

Even if allowed, it might kind of be letting the side down to discuss such details on an open board. Customs doesn't need any help.

I was also about this and after further thought i guess its not really such a good idea to discuss.

[jono]

lol. test e will give gains just as good as sust.

sorry i wasnt trying to imply that sust is more powerful than test e, just that people often experience better gains because it is fast acting and longer acting, one of the esters kicks in in about 3 days, while another lasts around 3 weeks but takes longer to act. However generally the faster acting a test product is the more side effects you will experience. That is why people often opt for a test e 1st cycle, problem is it will take a few weeks to start seeing anything, which doesnt matter all that much if you run it with an oral to help kickstart etc.

yes one of the esters kicks in in a short amount of time... but you wont start to notice gains till aroound 4 weeks in .. why? beacuse it takes time to build up in ur system... just like test E or C .. prop or test susp you will notice a big diff.

susts will not give you results in the first week.

[deegee]

some good thoughts there thanks for the replys I will let you know how it goes later this year, growth I will let you know the price etc when I make my purchase.

[Growth]

yes one of the esters kicks in in a short amount of time... but you wont start to notice gains till aroound 4 weeks in .. why? beacuse it takes time to build up in ur system... just like test E or C .. prop or test susp you will notice a big diff.

susts will not give you results in the first week.

Test prop is typically one of the esters in sust. Here is an exept from anabolic steroids 2004 (i think its 2004, may be an older copy)

"The propionate and phenylpropionate esters in this product (Sustanon) are quickly utilized, releasing into circulation within the first four days. The remaining esters are much slower to release, staying active in the body for about two and three weeks (respectively). This is a big improvement from standard testosterones such as cypionate or enanthate, which provide a much shorter duration of activity, and a more variable blood level."

[jono]

yes one of the esters kicks in in a short amount of time... but you wont start to notice gains till aroound 4 weeks in .. why? beacuse it takes time to build up in ur system... just like test E or C .. prop or test susp you will notice a big diff.

susts will not give you results in the first week.

Test prop is typically one of the esters in sust. Here is an exept from anabolic steroids 2004 (i think its 2004, may be an older copy)

"The propionate and phenylpropionate esters in this product (Sustanon) are quickly utilized, releasing into circulation within the first four days. The remaining esters are much slower to release, staying active in the body for about two and three weeks (respectively). This is a big improvement from standard testosterones such as cypionate or enanthate, which provide a much shorter duration of activity, and a more variable blood level."

that may be so but theres simply not enough prop in sust to offer quick gains.. still goto wait for the last ester to kick in

take a look at some of the more popular aas boards, read some cycle logs.. poeple who use sust.. it does not kick in for 3-4 weeks

also it takes a few injections to build up descent levels.. the halflifes overlap each other from different inj

[deegee]

Most cycles I have read about with sust say it takes about 3 weeks to kick in properly and they start to see some real gains, this doesnt worry me too much though. I have given thought to test e however I will see what is available and in what packaging since this seems important.

[Growth]

that may be so but theres simply not enough prop in sust to offer quick gains.. still goto wait for the last ester to kick in

A typical sust blend contains 30mg of prop and 60mg of pprop, thats a total of 90mgs out of the 250 that will be dumped from the depot site in around 3-4 days.

90mg out of the 250mg is still a significant amount. If you want to take advantage of the fast acting ester you will have to pin it eod though, and alot of people pin just once a week which would explain why some people dont see results untill the other esters have been released. I have read that alot of people have had better gains on sust than on a straight blend.

Im not saying that sust is the king of all test, just that it has its place in BBing.