Coconut oil goes in food, not muscles.

[Pseudonym]

http://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/amateur-bodybuilder-treated-after-injecting-himself-with-coconut-oil/

 

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A 25-year-old amateur bodybuilder was treated for pain and loss of function in his right arm. He told doctors he’d taken up body building four years earlier, but that he’d had trouble moving his arm for a few months. An ultrasound of the arm revealed that not only had he ruptured his triceps, but that there numerous cysts inside his arm muscle.

Despite being reluctant to talk at the start, the man eventually revealed that he had been injecting his arm with coconut oil to improve the aesthetics and contouring of his muscles. While the self-administering of steroids is a well-known practice, the extent of using other compounds, such as walnut oil, sesame oil, and paraffin, is less well established and not really recognized among medical practitioners. People are turning to them as cheap and easy to get hold of alternatives to anabolic steroids.

The doctors think that it is unlikely that the rupturing of the tendon that connects the triceps to the bone near the elbow – an injury that is rare in younger people – was related to the coconut oil, and is more probably linked to the fact that he was also taking steroids at the same time. But the cysts forming in the muscles were almost certainly the result of injecting the coconut oil into them.

 

Obviously one problem with site-specific  injections like this is the sheer volume of oil that is injected. Another, I presume, would be the sterility and purity of the oil.

 

But looking at that list of oils - coconut, walnut, sesame, paraffin - made me wonder... pharma-grade steroids are often carried in peanut oil, aren't they? So does an oil have to have certain properties to be safely injected? Or is it more the methodology that's to blame here, rather than the substance itself?

[BeastBuilder]

So a website called IFLScience is trying to say Coconut Oil, Walnut Oul etc as a "compound" that they can use as "cheap and easy to a hold of alternatives to anabolic steroids"..

No wonder the general public has no idea about gear in general when they're being told this shit.

 

I would say that most nut/seed oils are okay as they disappate in the muscle. It's likely the methodology of injecting large volumes of non sterile oil multiple times into the muscle in question without giving it a chance to disperse is the issue.

[Pseudonym]

On 09/12/2016 at 1:53 AM, BeastBuilder said:

So a website called IFLScience is trying to say Coconut Oil, Walnut Oul etc as a "compound" that they can use as "cheap and easy to a hold of alternatives to anabolic steroids"..

No wonder the general public has no idea about gear in general when they're being told this shit.

That's a fair point. IFLScience probably just picked up a sciency-looking story from other news media and ran with it, without knowing too much about it themselves.

 

I'll point this issue out to them. I think (or I'd like to think) they're reputable enough to want to clarify their story.

 

On 09/12/2016 at 1:53 AM, BeastBuilder said:

I would say that most nut/seed oils are okay as they disappate in the muscle.

So are there no issues with injecting nut or seed oils? And is this because most refined oils are made up largely of fatty acids which are readily found in the body anyway? I'm just trying to understand why something that people would initially consider food does not cause problems.

[ratz99]

1 hour ago, Pseudonym said:

That's a fair point. IFLScience probably just picked up a sciency-looking story from other news media and ran with it, without knowing too much about it themselves.

 

I'll point this issue out to them. I think (or I'd like to think) they're reputable enough to want to clarify their story.

 

So are there no issues with injecting nut or seed oils? And is this because most refined oils are made up largely of fatty acids which are readily found in the body anyway? I'm just trying to understand why something that people would initially consider food does not cause problems.

Unsure if i'd even bother telling them haha. They frequently post click bait shit and misleading titles, often with incorrect information. 

[BeastBuilder]

7 hours ago, Pseudonym said:

 

So are there no issues with injecting nut or seed oils? And is this because most refined oils are made up largely of fatty acids which are readily found in the body anyway? I'm just trying to understand why something that people would initially consider food does not cause problems.

I won't pretend to be an expert on the subject but to the best of my knowledge nut and seed oils, as long as they're sterile, are safe for injection.

Someone else will know more about the mechanisms of why they're okay.

Grapeseed Oil seems to be the most common oil used for steroids, unsure why it is picked over other oils, maybe cost ?

[Realtalk]

Any oil that is not sterile is more probable to cause a problem, it really doesn't matter what kind of oil it is - nut/seed, ricebran, olive, mct. Coconut oil is actually a popular carrier oil for homebrew. It can hold a much higher concentration without the need for EO like GSO would need. 

 

Problem with this guy is he doesn't know what he's doing and more than likley his oil is dirty. Speaking of SEO or site enhancement... When you do a proper site enhancement cycle with an oil like synthatek or synthol you are using huge amounts in the muscle and even though you are massaging and training the muscle everyday it still won't get rid of it all before the next shot and the whole point is to have it build up in the muscle and stretch the facia. On a pectoral muscle you are injecting 9 sites in each pec so 18 injections in total per day working up to a total of like 27ml in each pec per day. That's a lot of oil. A 6 week course for your arms will set you back like $600-$800, so you get the picture... it's a lot of oil.

 

It's not a volume issue or a oil type issue. Its a hygiene issue more than likely. So many muppets out there it's unreal.

 

Btw peanut oils would be the last oil I would use due to the increasing number of people having peanut allergies. No one knows or ever asks what the carrier oil is in the ug stuff they buy. They just assume it's gso. Not always the case.

 

 

[nate225]

Suck to be allergic to ground nuts.....wonder if anyone has gone amphalatic after a shot....

 

On another note most SEO's have a antimicrobial in them, homebrew tends to be MCT oil and a small % BA

[Pseudonym]

18 hours ago, nate225 said:

Suck to be allergic to ground nuts.....wonder if anyone has gone amphalatic after a shot....

Yes. Well, I don't know about anaphylactic, but certainly people have suffered allergic reactions...

 

http://www.medsafe.govt.nz/profs/PUArticles/BewarePeanutOil.htm