Why anavar is so expensive

[MiltonFriedman01]

I found this on another forum, thought it was very interesting. The original post is from Bill Roberts who I assume is well known in the steroid using community.

 

The reasoning has no merit.

The reason that Oxandrin is extremely expensive is that BTG (a foreign company, btw) got the US taxpayer to pay for studies on use of oxandrolone in young girls with Turner's syndrome. Which is a rare condition.

After the taxpayers' money proved that oxandrolone has a use for this rare condition, BTG used the Orphan Drug law to petition the FDA to give them monopoly rights for sale of oxandrolone as a prescription drug in the US. Whether for this purpose or not.

Upon this being granted, they then jacked up the price by a factor of 10 to 20 times over the price of the generics that had existed but which now no longer could be sold.

Oxandrolone actually is a somewhat expensive raw material -- the synthesis method has been much improved in recent years but it's still more expensive to make than for exampledianabol -- but the price difference is not remotely to the extent that one might imagine from the price of Oxandrin.

That price results from collusion to restrain trade, enabling monopoly pricing.

 

Got to love price minimums set by government don't ya. 

[PETN]

How is this at all relevant to the raws made in China and sold (pretty competitively) on the black market?

[GyzzBrah]

It dosent, he is trying to see if he can use this to start a debate / discussion on capitalism vs socialism, so that he can express his views which nobody cares about irl and feel important.

 

I know because I used to do the same.

[maccaz]

49 minutes ago, GyzzBrah said:

It dosent, he is trying to see if he can use this to start a debate / discussion on capitalism vs socialism, so that he can express his views which nobody cares about irl and feel important.

 

I know because I used to do the same.

 

i hope someone coward punches you on the street

[HarryB]

1 hour ago, GyzzBrah said:

It dosent, he is trying to see if he can use this to start a debate / discussion on capitalism vs socialism, so that he can express his views which nobody cares about irl and feel important.

 

I know because I used to do the same.

 

And now you're posting on your own thread pretending to be 2 different people hahaha haha wtf

[Polo]

Generally people tend to use anavar towards the end of a cycle for the last 4 weeks or throughout as the reported effect on retaining more muscle due to density.

 

If I was spending a ton for a heavy cycle I too would pay the  $$ for var. Weather that is a reflection on why price is so high I don't know.

[MiltonFriedman01]

Firstly, No I did not want to start a debate about socialism vs capitalism as there is no debate to be had and I would rather spend my time talking to those people who are already educated on the subject. If I have free time that I don't spend reading, working, sleeping, eating, working out, or learning (including the above) I normally watch videos by people like John Stossel, Thomas Sowell, Steven Crowder, Tom Woods, etc.

 

Secondly, you are partly correct in that the laws have little to do with the price of black market products directly, however indirect effects are profound. First government crack downs on drug availability make it far more costly to produce/supply drugs (increasing the cost to consumers). Second a black market/UGL supplier is unlikely to reduce his prices to a level that reflects what would actually be achieved in the free market when his competitors (regardless of the quality/dose) charge far more. Third the risk of using UGL compounds increases the price of the available products which already have the approval of more people through simple demand and supply economics. 

 

Lastly, I posted it as a way of illustrating the effect regulation/legislation has on the availability, supply, price, and quality of the products gym go'ers/amateur athletes use which is rather important to understand especially if you want to change it as every societal change started with educating others. 

 

It generally doesn't pay to try convince people of libertarian/classical liberal beliefs if they aren't open to it at the get go. I have wasted far to many hours of my life debating people (ESPECIALLY YOUNG PEOPLE, mainly political science majors so don't fuckin study this) just to have them present the same irrational, emotion driven bullshit 3 hours into the debate which they presented at the start.  

[Realtalk]

Do you train bro or just take gear and talk absolute shit?

[MiltonFriedman01]

Of course I train, however I don't spend 8 hours in the gym everyday so I have time to do other things like "talk absolute shit"  as you put it. 

 

I could ask you the same question, however it wouldn't be very constructive. If you don't approve of what I wrote that's fine, I don't really care, however could you please just tell me so I know if I am wasting my time?

 

Much appreciated.  

 

 

[maccaz]

48 minutes ago, MiltonFriedman01 said:

Of course I train, however I don't spend 8 hours in the gym everyday so I have time to do other things like "talk absolute shit"  as you put it. 

 

I could ask you the same question, however it wouldn't be very constructive. If you don't approve of what I wrote that's fine, I don't really care, however could you please just tell me so I know if I am wasting my time?

 

Much appreciated.  

 

 

you post annoying af unrelated waffly bullshit a lot mate.

stick to the topic at hand

[Wookie]

Your post is probably correct 10yrs ago in the USA.

 

As relevance to the price of Anavar its like pointing to drug cartel supply in Mexico/USA for the lack of cocaine in NZ. Probably no relevance.