Strength Training Program

[s0lidsnake]

Hi everyone,

 

I've been lifting for over three years but I've never been inconsistent..... I would just pick random programs from bodybuilding.com, do certain parts than just find another. I haven't been back in the gym for a year so I want to get some muscle on me but I need a good program for someone that has been out of the gym.  I'm excited to start fresh with a new program that I can stay consistent too.

 

I'm glad I've found this forum because there are many people with a wealth of knowledge for strength training so feed back will be much appreciated.

 

Many Thanks

[Realtalk]

Hey mate, the best program is one you pick and just stick to and be consistent with. So the bb.com ones are probably fine you just need to complete them.

 

Why were you inconsistent and jumping from program to program? what's your reason for that 

[s0lidsnake]

19 minutes ago, Realtalk said:

Hey mate, the best program is one you pick and just stick to and be consistent with. So the bb.com ones are probably fine you just need to complete them.

 

Why were you inconsistent and jumping from program to program? what's your reason for that 

 

Cheers Realtalk,

 

I was inconsistent because I would get pumped up, lose motivation and the cycle repeats.....

 

I was jumping from program to program because I don't trust my judgement due to not having much knowledge in the gym area so I wasn't sure which one to stick to.

[Realtalk]

Yeah ok. I don't know you but I'd probably say give 5x5 a go you can google that and there is pages of info on it. It's not complicated so it's easy to follow, it can be as easy or hard as you want to make it, you'll get good at the lifts and there's plenty of volume to put on some muscle mass too. I'd run 10-20 weeks of that and then see where you go from there.

[s0lidsnake]

5 minutes ago, Realtalk said:

Yeah ok. I don't know you but I'd probably say give 5x5 a go you can google that and there is pages of info on it. It's not complicated so it's easy to follow, it can be as easy or hard as you want to make it, you'll get good at the lifts and there's plenty of volume to put on some muscle mass too. I'd run 10-20 weeks of that and then see where you go from there.

 

Cheers bro Realtalk. I'll give this a go but if it's cool. Can I report back and get further tips from you? Is there specific info you would like to know now and specific info to report back on? Thanks

[s0lidsnake]

I apologize I should have mentioned before I can't do free weight bench, dumbbell press, shoulder press or squats due to safety reasons of a condition I have. So basically exercises where the weights can fall on me....... For the

exercises mentioned before I use machine weights and for legs I find a machine weight machine..... Not completed limited to free weights though, I can use dumbbells as long as they ain't over my head and I can use the cables no problem 

[PETN]

Yeah ok why cant you do squats or at least bench in a power rack using the safety bars?  Or OHP for that matter...

[s0lidsnake]

13 minutes ago, PETN said:

Yeah ok why cant you do squats or at least bench in a power rack using the safety bars?  Or OHP for that matter...

 

Atonic Epilepsy. OHP machine is fine

[PETN]

7 minutes ago, s0lidsnake said:

 

Atonic Epilepsy. OHP machine is fine

That doesnt really answer my question? If you're using safeties you can't drop weight on yourself (unless you randomly fell sideways on squats at top of movement).

 

Could you clarify why you cant do these excercises?

[s0lidsnake]

2 hours ago, PETN said:

That doesnt really answer my question? If you're using safeties you can't drop weight on yourself (unless you randomly fell sideways on squats at top of movement).

 

Could you clarify why you cant do these excercises?

Google!

http://www.epilepsy.com/learn/types-seizures/atonic-seizures

What is an atonic seizure?

Muscle "tone" is the muscle's normal tension. "Atonic" (a-TON-ik) means "without tone," so in an atonic seizure, muscles suddenly lose strength......

 

I'd appreciate help with what I asked for not me explaining why I can't do specific exercises. Not relevant to what I was asking for after making the limitations on me.

 

[PETN]

I googled it earlier. You said your concern was the weights falling on you while having seizure. I dont see how thats possible if you set the safety bars up properly in a power rack on the excercises i mentioned. 

 

Youre asking for a specialised program catered to you yet you didnt even initially mention that you cant or wont do 90% of gym excercises that people actually do. Now you refuse to explain why you cant do excercises set up so that there is no risk of weights falling on you.

 

If i wrote what im thinking id get banned again but when i was googling your condition it said people with it often wear helmets to prevent brain injury from falling while having a seizure. I suggest you start wearing one to prevent further damage.

[Realtalk]

Probably find someone who can train with you get a group together then they can spot you. That's what I'd do if I had your condition.

[s0lidsnake]

17 minutes ago, PETN said:

I googled it earlier. You said your concern was the weights falling on you while having seizure. I dont see how thats possible if you set the safety bars up properly in a power rack on the excercises i mentioned. 

 

Youre asking for a specialised program catered to you yet you didnt even initially mention that you cant or wont do 90% of gym excercises that people actually do. Now you refuse to explain why you cant do excercises set up so that there is no risk of weights falling on you.

 

If i wrote what im thinking id get banned again but when i was googling your condition it said people with it often wear helmets to prevent brain injury from falling while having a seizure. I suggest you start wearing one to prevent further damage.

 

 If you googled it earlier you wouldn't have need to ask a second time..... True I didn't mention I can't do those

exercises earlier but I mentioned it before you were even able to make a post 

 

 "Yeah ok why cant you do squats or at least bench in a power rack using the safety bars?  Or OHP for that matter..."

 

90% of gym exercises? I can use machine weights such as shoulder press, bench press, certain leg machines.......

 

And a helmet? It's dependent it the persons case. Before suggesting give facts rather than opinions. Please be like Realtalk and give "Good" advice based on what the person asks

[s0lidsnake]

8 minutes ago, Realtalk said:

Probably find someone who can train with you get a group together then they can spot you. That's what I'd do if I had your condition.

 

Cheers mate

[PETN]

How about you give the facts as to why you cant do those excercises using the safety bars to prevent a weight falling on you?

 

Its a fair question as you said the reason you cant do them is risk of weight falling on you and this risk would be eliminated by using the safety bars. 

[s0lidsnake]

8 minutes ago, PETN said:

How about you give the facts as to why you cant do those excercises using the safety bars to prevent a weight falling on you?

 

Its a fair question as you said the reason you cant do them is risk of weight falling on you and this risk would be eliminated by using the safety bars. 

 

If you had read like you said you did than you wouldn't be asking over and over again. Do I really need to break it down for you?

 

But advice about my original question along with what I said about limitations on exercises not 90% as you concluded. That will help me, not trying to workout why I can't do those exercises.

 

Realtalk understands perfectly :)

[PETN]

Yes break it down for me. Its not clear at all.

 

If i understand cortectly the advice realtalk is giving you is basically the same thing im getting at. Youre making excuses as to why you cant do excercises. Maybe you can do them with a spotter or with safety bars, both of which should catch the weights and stop them falling on you. 

 

You just sound lazy and seem like the type of person who would be successful if they put the same time and effort that they currently  use to make excuses and avoid looking for solutions into actually finding solutions and getting stuff done.

 

Do you go to the doctor while injured and ask him to prescribe you something to make you better then tell him your knee hurts or whatever then not answer any of his questions hes asking to determine what medication/rehab stuff will actually be useful for you?

[s0lidsnake]

15 minutes ago, PETN said:

Yes break it down for me. Its not clear at all.

 

If i understand cortectly the advice realtalk is giving you is basically the same thing im getting at. Youre making excuses as to why you cant do excercises. Maybe you can do them with a spotter or with safety bars, both of which should catch the weights and stop them falling on you. 

 

You just sound lazy and seem like the type of person who would be successful if they put the same time and effort that they currently  use to make excuses and avoid looking for solutions into actually finding solutions and getting stuff done.

 

Do you go to the doctor while injured and ask him to prescribe you something to make you better then tell him your knee hurts or whatever then not answer any of his questions hes asking to determine what medication/rehab stuff will actually be useful for you?

 

You're making excuses as to why you cant do excercises? I made known exercises that I can't do so a substitute can be put in place for example free weight bench and machine weight bench.....

 

You sound like you have a problem understanding what you are reading. I googled and this what came up

 

" An atonic seizure is a sudden loss of muscle tone in the muscles that hold the body and head upright. The seizure occurs without warning and usually causes the person to fall down. "

 

That's a simple definition..... Do you understand or should I find a more simpler definition?

 

I go to a qualified doctor to get facts not opinions with no research and a qualified doctor knows what problem to address

[s0lidsnake]

1 hour ago, PETN said:

I googled it earlier. You said your concern was the weights falling on you while having seizure. I dont see how thats possible if you set the safety bars up properly in a power rack on the excercises i mentioned. 

 

Youre asking for a specialised program catered to you yet you didnt even initially mention that you cant or wont do 90% of gym excercises that people actually do. Now you refuse to explain why you cant do excercises set up so that there is no risk of weights falling on you.

 

If i wrote what im thinking id get banned again but when i was googling your condition it said people with it often wear helmets to prevent brain injury from falling while having a seizure. I suggest you start wearing one to prevent further damage.

 

If i wrote what im thinking id get banned again

 

It seems like you have a history, not being offensive but if you can't add anything that addresses the topic please move on. Thank you for your past posts though :)

[PETN]

Ok so do you never stand up or walk etc and sit on youre arse whole day in case you fall over? Im guessing you do actually stand and walk.

 

And im guessing itd be same thing if you had seizure while sitting on chest machine doing a set as it would if you had a seizure in the power rack benching with the safety bars set just above your body.

 

I wont clog up this quality thread any more. Good luck mate.

[s0lidsnake]

8 minutes ago, PETN said:

Ok so do you never stand up or walk etc and sit on youre arse whole day in case you fall over? Im guessing you do actually stand and walk.

 

And im guessing itd be same thing if you had seizure while sitting on chest machine doing a set as it would if you had a seizure in the power rack benching with the safety bars set just above your body.

 

I wont clog up this quality thread any more. Good luck mate.

 

I'll do you a favor because I want to help you with your thinking.

 

If a seizure occurs would you prefer 120kg falling on your chest when doing free weights? or  would you prefer the safety controls put in place when using a machine bench press?

 

When a seizure occurs it happens 'suddenly' meaning you don't have time to use the safety controls on a rack bench....

 

Is that basic enough for you to understand? If you understand fine now, no need for a reply :) All the best

 

I'm happy you mentioned being banned before. Good reminder for us all to respect others and know our place. Glad you are back though.

[Skeletor]

Like Realtalk said. You would be best to get a group of guys together who can spot you should a seizure occur because free weight are pretty much the best exercises.  Not saying you won't build muscle on machines because you still will but free weights are still gold.  How often are you having these seizures man that they become such a problem in the gym? 

[s0lidsnake]

26 minutes ago, Skeletor said:

Like Realtalk said. You would be best to get a group of guys together who can spot you should a seizure occur because free weight are pretty much the best exercises.  Not saying you won't build muscle on machines because you still will but free weights are still gold.  How often are you having these seizures man that they become such a problem in the gym? 

 

Thanks for the reply Skeletor.

 

I averaged one per week but they are controlled now. Last one was last year in September but the doctor said talk to a personal trainer or people that are well educated with strength training so if a seizure was to occur than safety measures are put in place.

[PETN]

2 hours ago, s0lidsnake said:

 

I'll do you a favor because I want to help you with your thinking.

 

If a seizure occurs would you prefer 120kg falling on your chest when doing free weights? or  would you prefer the safety controls put in place when using a machine bench press?

 

When a seizure occurs it happens 'suddenly' meaning you don't have time to use the safety controls on a rack bench....

 

Is that basic enough for you to understand? If you understand fine now, no need for a reply :) All the best

 

I'm happy you mentioned being banned before. Good reminder for us all to respect others and know our place. Glad you are back though.

 

 

Fucks sake.

 

It would fall on the safety bars of the power rack if you were using them at a height just above your chest. It would not fall on your chest.

 

I understood that shit about the seizures when i first read it. You dont have to have time to do anything with what i suggested though. I think youre confused about what a power rack and safety bars are.

 

Does anyone else not understand how this would allow him to bench but prevent him dropping weight on himself? Maybe my explanation is not basic enough but its a pretty simple fucking concept.

 

 

[Skeletor]

18 minutes ago, s0lidsnake said:

 

Thanks for the reply Skeletor.

 

I averaged one per week but they are controlled now. Last one was last year in September but the doctor said talk to a personal trainer or people that are well educated with strength training so if a seizure was to occur than safety measures are put in place.

Good you're getting them under control man. PETN is right that if you were to squat with safety's and bench you should be right. My old flatmate had epilepsy and used to train with me pretty sweet although we weren't powerlifting then. He'd near always have his in the morning after waking anyway. Was shocking for taking his epilum though and I went to wake him for work one day and he had passed away so make sure you take your pills man.