KiwiJuiceNZ and satanic labs?????

[KTA007]

Hey guys,

 

This is my first post so hopefully this is ok.  Don't think these really counts as sources as I cant find them :) Does anyone know what has happened to either

 

KiwiJuiceNZ

Satanic labs

 

Seems they have both dropped off the planet, which has left me high and dry and now going through a list of shitty online sources which is like pinning diluted piss.

 

Maybe neither of these two were 'The Best' (I'm not that experienced to know), but they were definitely better than the ones I am currently trying.

 

 

[maccaz]

24 minutes ago, KTA007 said:

Hey guys,

 

This is my first post so hopefully this is ok.  Don't think these really counts as sources as I cant find them :) Does anyone know what has happened to either

 

KiwiJuiceNZ

Satanic labs

 

Seems they have both dropped off the planet, which has left me high and dry and now going through a list of shitty online sources which is like pinning diluted piss.

 

Maybe neither of these two were 'The Best' (I'm not that experienced to know), but they were definitely better than the ones I am currently trying.

 

 

they got shut down for being blatant assholes with no conscience for who they were selling to. 

[HarryB]

Well they probably just relabelling their brand... so no doubt you'll be able to pick up the same stuff under a different name. Cracks me up all the brand names.. why not just call it.. "mixed this myself in the kitchen" probably wouldn't fit on a label though.. 

[KTA007]

Cheers guys.  Sucks a bit as took me ages to find those 2.  Can anyone point me to a good site that discusses this stuff

 

[maccaz]

3 hours ago, HarryB said:

Well they probably just relabelling their brand... so no doubt you'll be able to pick up the same stuff under a different name. Cracks me up all the brand names.. why not just call it.. "mixed this myself in the kitchen" probably wouldn't fit on a label though.. 

find them was no achievement.

who knows what you were even buying from them. and it was ripoff.

 

[HarryB]

Just now, maccaz said:

find them was no achievement.

who knows what you were even buying from them. and it was ripoff.

 

 

Lol isn't that pretty much the same as any underground set up.. unless you're in on every part of the process you're just taking some dudes word for it. Pseud should organise independent testing ha ha ha 

[maccaz]

1 minute ago, HarryB said:

 

Lol isn't that pretty much the same as any underground set up.. unless you're in on every part of the process you're just taking some dudes word for it. Pseud should organise independent testing ha ha ha 

 

different degrees of dodgy i reckon lol.

 

a blatant website or facebook page is the lowest of the low, selling to the masses of uneducated, rather than someone at the gym selling and giving (hopefully good) advice along with it.

 

 

in on independent testing.

 

[Pseudonym]

Jesus, can you imagine it? I'm nervous enough about testing protein powders, and their distributors aren't likely to put a brick through my car window.

 

Besides, you just couldn't do it and have any meaningful result. The whole point of the underground gear problem is that no two vials have the same contents - even if they have the same label. If they come from different resellers, have they been tampered with? If your vials come "direct from the manufacturer", what about everyone else who doesn't?

 

Also, what would be the legality of buying them to test? I guess it would be as illegal for me to buy even for testing, as it would be for any user.

[maccaz]

20 minutes ago, Pseudonym said:

Jesus, can you imagine it? I'm nervous enough about testing protein powders, and their distributors aren't likely to put a brick through my car window.

 

Besides, you just couldn't do it and have any meaningful result. The whole point of the underground gear problem is that no two vials have the same contents - even if they have the same label. If they come from different resellers, have they been tampered with? If your vials come "direct from the manufacturer", what about everyone else who doesn't?

 

Also, what would be the legality of buying them to test? I guess it would be as illegal for me to buy even for testing, as it would be for any user.

 

yep

 

i think you can buy labmax kit which test for the presence of a compound (but not of concentration) and a few guys on the aussie forums go as far as having GCMS (i think its called?) test to find out how legit a product is.

 

its usually one brand paying for the tests to discredit another brand.

 

usually find if something is wrong, its that everything is test e, just labelled and colored differently.

 

worrying one is people selling dbol (cheap) as anavar (expensive) and a few guys on aussie forum have reported their girlfriends have wound up taking dbol and getting the masculinising effects, thinking its anavar. that is a true scumbag move to sell that knowingly to females imo..

[PETN]

My understanding is that the actual use of the drugs isnt illegal. But buying(?) them or possessing them without a script is.

 

Also if i was selling and knew you were going to be testing a vial of my test e say, labelled at 250mg/ml id most likely make a vial up at 300mg/ml or something and then you'd post your results up and id get free advertising that my test was better than everyone elses who didnt also do this.

[Realtalk]

It takes about 5min to completley rebrand. Most people will have like 3 or 4 different brands anyway that they sell and they just play them off against each other. As the saying goes, the dealer always wins.

[HarryB]

If perchance you get busted with steroids you will be charged with possession and use. Both illegal. You might also have the good fortune to get charged with intent to distribute and if you won't give anyone up maybe even import :) 

 

Possession and use aren't as big a problem as import and distribution. 

 

Know your rights peeps. Everything is for personal use, so you have a 100wk cycle and use 2 bottles a week. And you got it from your mate Dave who was a pt at your gym but has since left the country to pursue a career in porn in Japan... you think. 

[maccaz]

12 minutes ago, HarryB said:

If perchance you get busted with steroids you will be charged with possession and use. Both illegal. You might also have the good fortune to get charged with intent to distribute and if you won't give anyone up maybe even import :) 

 

Possession and use aren't as big a problem as import and distribution. 

 

Know your rights peeps. Everything is for personal use, so you have a 100wk cycle and use 2 bottles a week. And you got it from your mate Dave who was a pt at your gym but has since left the country to pursue a career in porn in Japan... you think. 

 

 

can you get done for "use" ? 

[HarryB]

It's directly related to the possession charge. 

 

I got convicted of it lol as well as possession and a couple of others. So yes.... yes you can :)

[KTA007]

What was the sentence? 

 

So if website/Facebook stuff is shit and you don't train at a gym, but rather own one, how the f&#k do get around all these rules and protocols and get good stuff? 

 

My only 2 links/suppliers have disappeared and even though apparantely they weren't the best they were better than I am currently using from said website supplier ? 

[maccaz]

13 minutes ago, KTA007 said:

What was the sentence? 

 

So if website/Facebook stuff is shit and you don't train at a gym, but rather own one, how the f&#k do get around all these rules and protocols and get good stuff? 

 

My only 2 links/suppliers have disappeared and even though apparantely they weren't the best they were better than I am currently using from said website supplier ? 

 

fishing on this website isn't the best solution.

what gym do you own? 

[KTA007]

Ok

[maccaz]

35 minutes ago, KTA007 said:

Elite Trainers

A personal training gym

you will probably get some pms on here, if you haven't already lol

[Wookie]

Re testing product, I'm sure Heather Du Plessis-Allen will be down after her little firearm test.

"In the public interest"

[maccaz]

2 minutes ago, Wookie said:

Re testing product, I'm sure Heath Du Plessis-Allen will be down after her little firearm test.

"In the public interest"

 

waste of that face if she were to grow a beard 

[woody]

On 3/28/2016 at 9:27 AM, KTA007 said:

Hey guys,

 

This is my first post so hopefully this is ok.  Don't think these really counts as sources as I cant find them :) Does anyone know what has happened to either

 

KiwiJuiceNZ

Satanic labs

 

Seems they have both dropped off the planet, which has left me high and dry and now going through a list of shitty online sources which is like pinning diluted piss.

 

Maybe neither of these two were 'The Best' (I'm not that experienced to know), but they were definitely better than the ones I am currently trying.

 

 

you carnt have looked very hard,still going same name s etc

[Polo]

Dunno about satanic but definitely know KiwiJ is a lot more legit than plenty of other UG sources. Guess there's a risk with anything here in nz

[MiltonFriedman01]

I have nothing to do with either of the above, however am currently using Kiwijuice and my blood tests are legit very high total & free test, slightly high Estradiol (using 500mg per week and a little aromasin), prolactin a little up, LH and FSH suppressed, and Liver enzymes/cholesterol well within normal range although HDL is a little down on what it normally is).

 

Not endorsing anyone, however given my user name I feel compelled to support those within the market who provide good quality gear. 

[Janoy_66]

I've used kiwi juice's dbol and test... Was going to get tren along with it but he claimed was waiting on his supply of raws. Into my fourth week of using dbol and test (enth), have gained 8kg (obviously mostly water) and started getting sore asf PIP these past two weeks, lasting 8days in my ass! So don't know what that's about.  A bit sceptical until I get around to doing bloods. Just my take on it, not saying it's good, nor am I saying its bad

[Polo]

At least you know somethings working ^^