Online Pharmacies

[Growth]

They will likely be 5mg, even if they are 10s then its still expensive. You gotta watch mate, although a source maybe convient they will be making a profit on the products they sell you, and every source will have a different markup depending on how much they want to make out of the deal...

[keats]

i think they were the 10mg dbol, they were the pink ones. I know now though, when i strated i must admit i was a bit niieve. Didnt know anything about the pricing sructure of underground products. Good to finally have a online pharmacy that has products i can get without breaking the bank..

[frogie2001]

wow I thought that $1 a dbol was standard. I paid $50 for the sus 250ml. brings a small cycle for about 4 weeks to around the $500 mark.

that's 6 dbol a day and one jab a week.

for some reason though I got some rather low results. got some massive pumps though just didin't keep much of it. I am a little older and a littel wiser now so here is hoping that the next cycle is more advantageous

[Growth]

wow I thought that $1 a dbol was standard. I paid $50 for the sus 250ml. brings a small cycle for about 4 weeks to around the $500 mark.

that's 6 dbol a day and one jab a week.

for some reason though I got some rather low results. got some massive pumps though just didin't keep much of it. I am a little older and a littel wiser now so here is hoping that the next cycle is more advantageous

WOW :shock: you paid $50 for an amp of sust :shock: I paid 20 cents per 5mg dbol.

So your cycle was 250mg sust, 1 jab a week for 4 weeks, and 30mg dbol a day for 4 weeks, and it cost you $500 :shock: Not only did you pay through the roof but that is a very poor cycle choice IMO, no wonder you had poor results...did the $500 include your PCT?

Hopefully you mean by wiser that you have a better source and that your next cycle will be planned out better. You really need to run a cycle for at least 10 weeks.

[frogie2001]

I know the cycles should be longer. but at that price their is little wonder that I couldn't get much more out of it. :?

but yeah a little wiser in the way that I have my training a bit tighter and the diet is a lot better. one day I'll find a source that I can afford.

[jono]

wow I thought that $1 a dbol was standard. I paid $50 for the sus 250ml. brings a small cycle for about 4 weeks to around the $500 mark.

that's 6 dbol a day and one jab a week.

for some reason though I got some rather low results. got some massive pumps though just didin't keep much of it. I am a little older and a littel wiser now so here is hoping that the next cycle is more advantageous

running test for 4 weeks is pretty much a waste of time. thats why ur gains were not that good. id run 10-12 weeks minimum

[waldo]

You guys should be looking at anabolex.com, they have a pretty comprehensive scammers list, and a lot of QUALIFIED advice on this sort of thing.

[keats]

I have been on the site, its good when looking for cycles etc. same layout as this message board. But keep it local, this board is great too!

[frogie2001]

at the anabolex site.

what do the cycles look like? are they promoting excessive use cycles? or do they keep them a bit smaller.

I have had some cycle ideas thrown at me and they seem hugely excessive. 2 shots of sus a week. dbol and than a whole heap of est' supressors to stop the gyno. I reckon we could do some comparitive cycles. I always ask my self what would the pros from the 60's and 70's use? and try and keep it similar

[jono]

You guys should be looking at anabolex.com, they have a pretty comprehensive scammers list, and a lot of QUALIFIED advice on this sort of thing.

yep its a great site.. ive been browsing it for liek 2 yrs

[keats]

If your seroiusly looking at a cycle, go to http://www.steroidtips.com they have some sample cycles which are not excessive. Good steroid info also

[frogie2001]

bugger! :wink:

I just had a look at one of the sites from the anabolex. I did get done over. on price as well as it not coming! defiantely learned my lesson. just knowing that 100 dbol can be got for around $0.50 each. instead of the $1 mark. bugger.

What is the best method of payment with over seas that these guys use. I wouldn't even contemplate visa use on this one.

[waldo]

Lets go tit for tat...I've been on Anabolex.com since 2000 i think. There are a number of pro bodybuilders that post on there, can't work out who but. There are also a number of abusers on there, but hey, you will always get the users and the abusers. The best thing about that site is the wealth of info, it's absolutely massive. Education is always the key. you can post to very experienced users, and they can critique cycles/stacks, and usually do so without judging.

In my experience, it's best to be a user, as you can minimise side effects...but who is to say what will happen years down the track. All the abusers tend to drop off the scene just as quickly as they came on!

[Growth]

What is the best method of payment with over seas that these guys use. I wouldn't even contemplate visa use on this one.

Western Union :grin:

[keats]

[/What is the best method of payment with over seas that these guys use. I wouldn't even contemplate visa use on this one.]

Go for western union best way to pay for products, may cost a bit more but compared to the scammers who want your credit card number its nothing.

[frogie2001]

Lets go tit for tat...I've been on Anabolex.com since 2000 i think. There are a number of pro bodybuilders that post on there, can't work out who but. There are also a number of abusers on there, but hey, you will always get the users and the abusers. The best thing about that site is the wealth of info, it's absolutely massive. Education is always the key. you can post to very experienced users, and they can critique cycles/stacks, and usually do so without judging.

In my experience, it's best to be a user, as you can minimise side effects...but who is to say what will happen years down the track. All the abusers tend to drop off the scene just as quickly as they came on!

Mate I agree completely. I feel that AB use should be that of a supplement to a working routine and diet. if you don't get results without them ....

[deegee]

gotta agree with western union being the way to go, also is far less traceable back to you if things go wrong.

There are some good sites out there with lists of scammers to help but hopefuly we can build something up on this site for us that reflects the kiwi scene, then we hopefuly wont get guys ripped off with $1 dbol and useless cycles like 4 weeks of sus.

sus takes 21 days or so to really kick in which does not make it a great option for a short cycle. i think short cycles have there place but probably 6 weeks would be the shortest i personaly would look at.

[Growth]

then we hopefuly wont get guys ripped off with $1 dbol and useless cycles like 4 weeks of sus.

lol :pfft:

i think short cycles have there place but probably 6 weeks would be the shortest i personaly would look at.

IMO that is still too short, but like you said, thats your personal choice.

[deegee]

heard of a few guys getting good results from a 6 weeker of something fast acting like test prop.

[frogie2001]

so what is an example cycle that you guys would use. and jsut out of curiosity what was teh cost??

[Growth]

Well the basis of any good cycle IMO is test. Alot of people, especially beginners simpley go for a straight test enanthate cycle, 10 weeks, 500mg a week, 2 shots a weeks.

If it were me id go with that. Alternatively i might be inclined to do for a test, deca, dbol cycle, still 10 weeks, perhaps 300mg test a week, 200mg deca a week and 20-30mg dbol a day.

As for cost, the straight test e cycle would be under $200

[deegee]

If it were me id go with that. Alternatively i might be inclined to do for a test, deca, dbol cycle, still 10 weeks, perhaps 300mg test a week, 200mg deca a week and 20-30mg dbol a day.

I agree, would only look at the dbol for 1st 3-4 weeks though.

even then test and deca would be enough, depends on how many cycles youve done before I guess.

[frogie2001]

As for cost, the straight test e cycle would be under $200

so you would say that if you had 2 shots a week of test e and the dbol for 10 weeks would be around $400????

these new things are thrwoing me I have only every had experieince with

sus and dbol using both of them for 4 weeks. these long cycles are all new to me! :?

[Growth]

so you would say that if you had 2 shots a week of test e and the dbol for 10 weeks would be around $400????

these new things are thrwoing me I have only every had experieince with

sus and dbol using both of them for 4 weeks. these long cycles are all new to me!

In my experience deca is usually more expensive than test enantate, and prices vary alot, what one person can get another may not be able to, you cant really give a difinitive answer on a price for a given cycle.

A ten week cycle is not a long cycle at all. I saw someone post a similar cycle to one someone posted on here about sust/deca cycle for 4 weeks, the general consensis what that it was bullshit, a waste of time, i agree.

[Mercury]

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