17 Doping failures at IWF Worlds

[Wookie]

Olympic Weightlifting Worlds had a ton of failures. Mostly for Turinabol.

 

Article: http://www.floelite.com/article/38697-17-new-positive-tests-from-iwf-worlds

[Wookie]

The big news is Lovchev, who broke the CJ world record with 264kg tested positive for a peptide hormone called Ipamorelin. Apparently he declared it and said it was for healing an injury. 

Anyone care to comment?

[Realtalk]

Pretty disgraceful alright. Not really overly surprising, though 17 positives is a big haul!

 

what I was surprised at was the types of drugs used, not so much tbol that was mainly the steroid of choice for the eastern block weight lifters back in the 70s. Namley deca and letro. But also the trend which is the athletes from the same countries using the same stuff. Most likley suggesting it's a national programme. I was also surprised at the nandrolone, anyone with half a clue knows nandrolone has one of the biggest times to clear. So perhaps it's not a national programme and they are taking UGL stuff from the same supplier and were given nandrolone which they thought was something else. That's a possibility too.

 

Most of the positive tests didn't even podium so it definitley poses the question about the athletes who passed the tests as well. This is an elite Olympic Games sport where every advantage and edge is huge, these people are basically pro athletes. Not an amatuer powerlifting federation where a juicer can quite easily lose to a clean lifter.

 

what is more common in oly lifting is for the lifter to 'take a break' so they stop competing and go off the drug testing programme for a couple of years - get strong as hell. They might increase their CJ by 50% and their snatch by 40%. Then they come off, get clean and go back to competing and they might have gained 42% on the CJ and 35% on the snatch. Which would be best impossible if they had stayed competing or at least would have taken them longer than the time taken off. I personally know of people who contemplate doing this. But to be at the top you have to be on, simple as that.

 

Rio will be interesting.

[pyro]

20 hours ago, Realtalk said:

Pretty disgraceful alright. Not really overly surprising, though 17 positives is a big haul!

 

what I was surprised at was the types of drugs used, not so much tbol that was mainly the steroid of choice for the eastern block weight lifters back in the 70s. Namley deca and letro. But also the trend which is the athletes from the same countries using the same stuff. Most likley suggesting it's a national programme. I was also surprised at the nandrolone, anyone with half a clue knows nandrolone has one of the biggest times to clear. So perhaps it's not a national programme and they are taking UGL stuff from the same supplier and were given nandrolone which they thought was something else. That's a possibility too.

 

Most of the positive tests didn't even podium so it definitley poses the question about the athletes who passed the tests as well. This is an elite Olympic Games sport where every advantage and edge is huge, these people are basically pro athletes. Not an amatuer powerlifting federation where a juicer can quite easily lose to a clean lifter.

 

what is more common in oly lifting is for the lifter to 'take a break' so they stop competing and go off the drug testing programme for a couple of years - get strong as hell. They might increase their CJ by 50% and their snatch by 40%. Then they come off, get clean and go back to competing and they might have gained 42% on the CJ and 35% on the snatch. Which would be best impossible if they had stayed competing or at least would have taken them longer than the time taken off. I personally know of people who contemplate doing this. But to be at the top you have to be on, simple as that.

 

Rio will be interesting.

I thought even after "retiring" you still got tested at random for a period, to try and prevent things like this happening. Didn't something happen recently to one of our triathletes who got caught out after retiring.

[Realtalk]

5 hours ago, pyro said:

I thought even after "retiring" you still got tested at random for a period, to try and prevent things like this happening. Didn't something happen recently to one of our triathletes who got caught out after retiring.

 

He didn't get "caught out" mate. He retired but didn't remove himself from the drug testing programme (probably didn't think he needed to, didn't think about it, or thought it would just be a non issue). Was nothing to do with a positive test. It was to do with the whereabouts programme that athletes on the drug testing programme have an obligation to follow and abide by. Basically it's a set of rules so that you can always be found for a drug test. Example, if I live in Auckland and drug free sport knows this and I am going to live in Nelson for 3 months of the summer, I need to tell them that and give them my address. He failed to notify anyone of his whereabouts. Even though retired, his name still being on the list triggered a bunch of stupidity and nonsense.

 

they don't test you once you remove yourself from the programme. It's a waste of money and resource and you're not competing anyway. Most of the sports have a stand down time or a probation period where you have to be on the listed on the programme for a particular duration before you can compete at a recognised level. So coming back into the sport is where you have that time, not after leaving it.

[Wookie]

I believe in NZ for sports like weightlifting you have to be on the full WADA where-abouts testing regime for 6 months before you can break a record or make a NZ team.

[Pseudonym]

So why is letrozole being used? It's not a performance-enhancer by itself, is it? I thought it was just an ancilliary that was used alongside something else. Is that an indication there's something being used that the tests aren't finding?

[maccaz]

15 minutes ago, Pseudonym said:

So why is letrozole being used? It's not a performance-enhancer by itself, is it? I thought it was just an ancilliary that was used alongside something else. Is that an indication there's something being used that the tests aren't finding?

 

probably being used as AI for something else and is just another marker for aas use testing. smart for them to test for all possibilities, rather than just the aas themselves. same reason serms are banned i thought

[maccaz]

unless use of letrozole to cause hypoestrogonism would be useful for females to drop estrogen in relation to test? doubt it tho