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Becoming a PT

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maccaz Veteran member

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i know so many people that have studied to be PT's and aren't PT's because they either couldnt get work or it was too hard to make a living, industry saturated etc.

 

i would say as long as you aren't thinking about doing it to get rich, and want to do it because you are actually keen to do that work then it'd be sweet

 

if i won lotto thats what i would want to do..

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It you're great at sales then you could be an OK PT. Making money day in day out as a PT is a tough gig and from my experience the most successful ones have the best marketing and sales ability... especially if you're operating from a large commercial gym paying massive rent and competing with a whole bunch of other pts.

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I've been in the industry since 2012 and it's really hard at first but once/if you can get the hang of how to go about things it can be a great career. Much like most businesses I suppose. One piece of advice is; the fitness industry is over saturated so seperate yourself from the shit and get educated. If you don't trust me you will get found out and your name will get dragged through the mud. I have had so many clients from

places like les mills who complain about previous trainers who have caused injuries or been unable/too lazy to deal with injuries or issues that are easily resolved through a slight change of posture or ROM etc. Just a basic example but yeah make sure you know your stuff and make sure you can back it up. I would recommend staying away from big chains like Les mills and club physical. Just my opinion. It's harder to get cliebts due to less leads but you have the freedom to do what you what wnd of course don't lose half your income to the franchise through rent etc (obviously all gyms will charge different rent and im sure some will be more than reasonable).

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Fitness instructors usually earn $14-$35 per hour
Personal trainers usually earn $25 -$35 per hour

That seems pretty low for the PTs, doesn't it? The PTs I know charge twice that, at least. Unless that site is averaging the hourly rate, because as Cameron says, you're not likely to be doing 40 billable hours each week.

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That seems pretty low for the PTs, doesn't it? The PTs I know charge twice that, at least. Unless that site is averaging the hourly rate, because as Cameron says, you're not likely to be doing 40 billable hours each week.

yeah something like that

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over here in australia (so probably bit different to  nz) my mate is a moderately busy PT, has some solid regulars, and some one offs or irregular clients, he makes around 800 a week, dont know if thats before or after tax, or if he even pays tax.

 

that is good money in my book, but not very good compared to a lot of other jobs in australia

 

hes looking to start doing boot camps because the money is much better for less work

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I would say that pay would be after paying rent to the gym and tax etc etc because yes it's low.

yeah sweet that sounds about right then, so would be approx 50k if it was a salaried job

 

imo thats not so bad if you enjoy the work and there is always potential to grow.

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I would say that pay would be after paying rent to the gym and tax etc etc because yes it's low.

I know club physical charges you to be a PT there (but you get to keep whatever money you make after that, unless I was lied to lol) 

 

Is the gym rent/fee/tax a standard with every gym?

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A lot of people I know in the business reckon relying on PT clients is hard yakka - quite a few of my mates end up running Boot Camps or group fitness classes to ensure they get the regular income.   PT'ing relies on folk signing up for quite large $ every week or month, and it's often easier to give up having a PT than it is to stop drinking....  but folks can often find $10 to be part of a boot camp....

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I know club physical charges you to be a PT there (but you get to keep whatever money you make after that, unless I was lied to lol)

Is the gym rent/fee/tax a standard with every gym?

This is true. I was paying around $200 pw (might have been like $207 incl gst) in rent to club physical as and LPT (contractor). I was employed by them also and worked some shifts each week. That pretty much covered my rent and more importantly allowed me to get leads and get to know everyone in the gym. This was a big advantage to building a client base. I did pretty well for myself, I charged 50 per hour or 30 for half. Can't think of an easier legal way to make $50 an hour that is available for anyone to do. I wouldn't work at club physical unless it's a franchise. Paul and Tina Richards aren't good people.

The job a lifestyle too, if you enjoy the gym and training yourself then it's cool. The whole industry is abit of a mess imo and could do with some regulation a big tidy up.

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Thanks for the feedback guys, not looking to make a fortune just do something day to day that I enjoy. I'm on 60k currently so something in that ball park would be good. I found some good info on the careers nz website. I could work at my current job part time and on weekends till I get up and running. My partner is just finishing a double degree in business and sport and exercise science so if I ran it as a business rather than being employed I could possibly leverage off that too. Have her write the programs or something etc.

 

I'm going look into the different courses to get reps certified next so keen to hear people experiences.

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A few of my co workers are trainers and they do pretty good with there clients unsure of the hours that they work or how many clients that they have which would also included the rate what they charge per session and the rent as well

So you actually have no idea how they are doing... lol

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Thanks for the feedback guys, not looking to make a fortune just do something day to day that I enjoy. I'm on 60k currently so something in that ball park would be good. I found some good info on the careers nz website. I could work at my current job part time and on weekends till I get up and running. My partner is just finishing a double degree in business and sport and exercise science so if I ran it as a business rather than being employed I could possibly leverage off that too. Have her write the programs or something etc.

I'm going look into the different courses to get reps certified next so keen to hear people experiences.

As an accountant with PT clients l can advise you that you will be struggling for years to make $60,000 pa

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It's all cash rebel, so you wouldn't know if they weren't declaring it all to you?

When I worked at club physical the IRD was doing a big education scheme to personal trainers at gyms (it was more of an opportunity to check/audit the suspicious ones) the girl told me fitness industry is just a cash industry which I obviously had figured out already and the tax evasion is huge.

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