Nzifbb why so unprofessional

[HarryB]

It reminds me of how nzfbb tries to push people to only use certain tanners etc etc etc companies owned by nzfbb pros and probably giving kickbacks to Moe. Actually makes perfect sense from a business standpoint! And my pet peeve of prep coaches judging comps. Homos

[Bigken1985]

INB4 NZPF PRO

[jigs]

Dont understand why no pro cards were handed out to this years nationals as this was the best ever nzifbb nationals quality athletes with the ablity to do some damage in the pro ranks. compared to the hand out "gift cards" in the years b4

[crazyfacials]

Dont understand why no pro cards were handed out to this years nationals as this was the best ever nzifbb nationals quality athletes with the ablity to do some damage in the pro ranks. compared to the hand out "gift cards" in the years b4

I read that 1 in every 5 NAR LABS PROTEIN  TUBS has a pro card in it, just buy them and you might get a chance of winning one, I'll sell mine to Maccaz as soon as I get it (Unless Gymrat comes back to bodybuilding)

[HarryB]

Well they're pushing athletes to do the aussie Arnold. I wonder if anyone from nz is doing the amateur Olympia this year in QLD.

[amitnz]

Rumour is lost the ability to hand out pro cards as NZ per capita handed out the most Pro cards. Now need permission from higher in the command chain. So I feel bad for Dan as technically he should have got his last year as in the audio Moe brags about screwing his placing. 

[bang_bang]

Rumour is lost the ability to hand out pro cards as NZ per capita handed out the most Pro cards. Now need permission from higher in the command chain. So I feel bad for Dan as technically he should have got his last year as in the audio Moe brags about screwing his placing. 

 

I guess that's why Dan was allowed to win this year, Moe knew he wasn't getting a pro card.

[Riccardo]

Rumour is lost the ability to hand out pro cards as NZ per capita handed out the most Pro cards. Now need permission from higher in the command chain. So I feel bad for Dan as technically he should have got his last year as in the audio Moe brags about screwing his placing. 

 

How should he have got his last year if he didn't win? Kurt deservedly won regardless of the politics IMO. I'm not jumping to Moe's defence by any means but you've made a lot of claims in this thread and posted a lot of audio clips but if you're right in saying Moe stole your IP then surely you would have some sort of legal recourse? Or did you not have the foresight to put things in writing etc? I just feel there is more to your story than you are letting on.

[jigs]

I agree with riccardo kurt looked great at the pro ams and regardless of hearing the tape recording of dan get screwed i thought kurt deserved the win he was in his best shape ever.

[jigs]

And as for this lee thompson former ifbb offical his video sounded more like a personal attack on the people he named instead of talking much on ifbb corruption anyways this joker was the most corrupt offical in the ifbb b4 breaking away to form his npc fed. He was taken to court in 2009 for sexual harassment towards female competiors so hes a dam joke

[jigs]

And i havnt heard anybody from n.z competing in the olympia in oz. Just the ifbb worlds in spain mateo and supry but looking forward to next years arnold in oz steve orton my bet to win the overalls and finally get his pro card wander if they will let the overall winner compete in the pro comp later that day like years b4.

[jigs]

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[Realtalk]

I agree with riccardo kurt looked great at the pro ams and regardless of hearing the tape recording of dan get screwed i thought kurt deserved the win he was in his best shape ever.

No one is saying he didn't look good. The recording is pretty clear about what went on. It wasn't fair. If you think kurt looked better then that's fine it's your opinion. But everyone's expert opinions aside, the fact is it wasn't a fair contest from the get go and you can't argue about that because the proof is there to confirm that.

[Riccardo]

Oh yeah 100%. I just think its unfair to kurt to say dan deserved it over him. Thats irrelevant though I'm more interested to know why Amit hasn't taken legal action?

[Realtalk]

I'm actually ashamed to have been part of the NZIFBB / Xtreme Nutrition group. Over the years we have seen much foul play based on who sells more Narlabs, MFL, Profight Nutritgenix (Moes brands) - There is no local board and regardless of the number of Judges, Moe calls the shots based on favours. Initially when we got started we had no idea this is how things were run. Some people may still argue that no one still has any idea how things are run.

Seen people not win or even place and constant bragging & bullying based on sales of products, other nationalities and even religion. (https://www.facebook.com/HarmanSran.RajveerBapla/videos/vb.102352546515984/895296307221600/?type=2&theater)

I feel sorry for the people who have been mis-treated and it takes the fun and passion out of competing for many. Much respect to those who ignore the politics and grind away day in and day out. But the NZIFBB is not an organisation if you do some research you will find its been converted to a company owned my Moe Moses or Moe El Moussawi plus a couple more names, all are the same person. Moe pays Jim Manion US $10k cash to sponsor the Pittsburgh Pro show as a fee to run the NZIFBB like a licencing fee.

Many people have come out and spoken for fairness but don't really get anywhere unfortunately. Things are changing now. Some people may call it Karma but when you see more and more infomercials for the IFBB or NZIFBB there is issues within the company. Anything built on dishonest foundations does not last. Even the best criminal or dictator stuffs up now or then. This was the last time there was a board hearing in the NZIFBB (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10331352)

There are a number of audios speculating which I have heard. One of them is Moe bragging about how manipulated the results of a show based on who he liked and did not. I hope someone puts them out for the masses to hear and see the real behind the scenes workings, I doubt anyone would want to be associated after that.

With all due respect Amit, in my eyes you aren't much better than moe and marven and all the rest of them. You screwed me over today and made me look like an idiot when you didn't show up. We had a verbal agreement for you to sponsor the Gpc bench wars weeks ago and I messaged you 3 times over that period to confirm you were on for it. The 3rd and last time I messaged you was yesterday at lunchtime, that is less than 24 hours before the competition started and you replied "of course bro" then you just didn't show up? Or message me to let me know you weren't coming, and I still haven't heard from you. Such a let down. I put your company logo on the poster and you got mentions on our Facebook page as a sponsor (advertising) and even a mention this morning at the lifter briefing cause I thought you might be running late. I offered you an opportunity to promote your company like we discussed and got nothing in return. If you didn't want to do it that's fine, but you had 3 opportunities to let me know. You are no better than marven who did exactly the same thing at another powerlifting competition in August.

I suggest you look at your own bussiness morals before you talk someone else's into the ground as you have done in this thread mercilessly. It's a little hypocritical don't you think..

Everything you have said in this thread has lost all credibility as far as I'm concerned after this f*ck up today and being lead along a trail of bullshit for 5 weeks. I don't appreciate being made to look like a fool when I get asked "where is mysupps?" And "when is Amit coming?" Numerous times.

[Riccardo]

There seems to be a fairly strong correlation between the supplement industry and this sort of thing. Payless did the same thing. To me it would seem only right for them to reimburse you for the free advertising they recieved.

[maccaz]

There seems to be a fairly strong correlation between the supplement industry and this sort of thing. Payless did the same thing. To me it would seem only right for them to reimburse you for the free advertising they recieved.

Disgraceful..

[Realtalk]

There seems to be a fairly strong correlation between the supplement industry and this sort of thing. Payless did the same thing. To me it would seem only right for them to reimburse you for the free advertising they recieved.

We Don't want anything now the competition is done. I only posted it because you can't rip into someone one week then the next do essentially what you are fussing about to another person the next.

After all these guys are only sponsoring events full of people who buy protein powders, pre workouts and other supplements. It's rather dissapointing, that's all.

[Skeletor]

Damn that would have been embarrassing to deal with. What was his excuse for not showing or have you still not heard?

[Riccardo]

Fair enough bro I would just be pissed that they recieved what is essentially free advertising without fulfilling their end of the deal.

[amitnz]

Hi Tom, really sorry mate I just saw your msg here. I did send my brother with the supplements to giveaway so not sure who he passed them to. Yes we did agree to it and I did think everything had gone down as the plan. I'm over in Aus at the moment and will be happy to try to rectify if possible

[amitnz]

Hey Tom I just called my brother he said he dropped the supps to someone that said he pass to you Sean someone at 1pm. Tubs of oxy elite protein. He said he asked for you and the gentlemen said he didn't know where you were but he knows you?

[donz]

Pretty professional approach - ignore messages, chill in another country, ask random brother to cruise up without telling anyone and then get him to give the "supplements" to a guy who no one knows in GPC - don't think I've ever met a guy called Sean. Good work A-moe-itNZ. 

[amitnz]

Definitely did drop the supplements. Wish we have passed them on before hand now or by courier so we'd have a track and trace receipt. Not a random brother he's actually known to GPC president and sponsored by Muscle Fuel. There's been a communication breakdown somewhere and probably on our part. But never any intention not to provide what we promised. Happy to even re deliver another lot to the winners. Don't have any messages that weren't replied to and yes Tom did confirm with us multiple times. That's the best I think I can do. Thanks amit

[maccaz]

Definitely did drop the supplements. Wish we have passed them on before hand now or by courier so we'd have a track and trace receipt. Not a random brother he's actually known to GPC president and sponsored by Muscle Fuel. There's been a communication breakdown somewhere and probably on our part. But never any intention not to provide what we promised. Happy to even re deliver another lot to the winners. Don't have any messages that weren't replied to and yes Tom did confirm with us multiple times. That's the best I think I can do. Thanks amit

So some guy called sean stole all the stuff? You should call the cops bro lol