IFBB announce new bodybuilding class

[nate225]

A classic physique type class has been announced, not sure on details though.

Anyone know more?

[donz]

hey bro here ya go;

 

http://npcnewsonline.com/npc-announces-new-mens-division-classic-physique/218682/

 

[Gym rat]

It will be interesting to see how that new class goes.

[maccaz]

just waiting for them to bring in the class for fat people that dont look like they lift then i will also be a champion

[crazyfacials]

just waiting for them to bring in the class for fat people that dont look like they lift then i will also be a champion

bro have you seen me on fb? I am the Phil Heath of dad bods, coupled with me not lifting for a while and being known by my first name and my usual meal at KFC, I think I will destroy you

[trainlikeafreak]

Didn't watch the whole thing but this sounds a bit silly tbh... For physique guys who are too big and for bodybuilders who can't get big enough... In other words an easy road? Tbh this class will probably look great but by making "a class for everyone" is this really the way to go?? Like if a physique guys too big.. Down size.. If a bodybuilders too small try harder or.. Give up lol. Just feel like bodybuilding is losing its bite a bit as first they brought out men's physique for smaller guys and now there is this for what im sure a lot of people will refer to as 'failed bodybuilders'

[nate225]

Disagree with you on this one TLAF. As long they get the height / weight ratio right it could be perfect for guys like you & me (that have no chance in hell at being competitive internationally as I'd need to be 120 on stage, you perhaps more if taller than me). 212 really only caters for short guys.

If the ratio is too low tho I'd agree with you.

[HarryB]

Interesting. Some federations already have this class don't they?

What was more interesting to me was what he said about how men's physique would change.

[Realtalk]

Didn't nzifbb have the classic class? Is that gone now?

[flexrondorianzenegger1]

Anyone who follows lui Marco will be aware of this as he's credited himself for having introduced this new category and for it being approved by Jim Mansion.

In my opinion.I kinda don't like it for two reasons

#1 To me the more categories of bodybuilding you have the more it detracts away from the effect of having one ultimate winner Thee 'Mr Olympia'.With the exception to the 212 division. Instead you have 3 or 4 Mr O's even though in there own respective categories. I like the idea of one category,one ultimate winner whether he's a freak or aesthetic whatever.

#2 even though I'm a huge fan of the more classic aesthetic type physiques (the 90s being my fave) I liked to have confidence that the sport would change own it's own and that some of these physiques would have the ability to over throw the freaks without having to have their own category designed for them.

My initial thoughts

[Pseudonym]

Didn't nzifbb have the classic class? Is that gone now?

I think that disappeared around the time they introduced Men's Physique. Which was a real shame, since the Classic was the only class for tall skinny white guys (like me) who still wanted to do "proper" bodybuilding poses, not the Physique stuff.

 

Here's what Moe says about it...

[Pseudonym]

As long they get the height / weight ratio right it could be perfect for guys like you & me (that have no chance in hell at being competitive internationally

Actually, looking closer at the numbers in Moe's Facebook post above, I'm disappointed. It's not what I would have called the "Classic" class at all.

 

At 6'0 (183cm) I would be in a class with anyone up to 105kg. At competition condition, that weight is absolutely nuts. They might as well not have a weight limit at all.

[Boosting]

Lol what? Go do athletic with nabba (i think) then if you wana compete against skinny fgts.

How heavy was arnold when he won olympia etc? It says thats maximum weight. Judges probably not just going to reward the heaviest person in each class id guess, and would instead be rewarding a certain 'look'.

[BeastBuilder]

Most stats say Arnold was 240-250 lbs at 6'2.

So around 110kg or so.

I think they'll definitely be going for a certain look rather than just the biggest. Otherwise it makes it an entirely pointless exercise and is just adding weight classes.

[BeastBuilder]

Personally I think the weight class thing is a stupid idea.

They should just emphasize symmetry, aesthetics, tapered look etc rather than sheer size, conditioning etc like in the full blown bodybuilding when judging this new category instead of throwing arbitrary numbers to put them in different classes.

Otherwise as we say even Arnold wouldn't have made the cut for the heaviest category they have out lined.

[trainlikeafreak]

Well I think weight classes are good. This class is obviously for a purpose and they obviously don't want it to get out of control. Possibly the growth (in muscle size) of men's physique since it started has contributed to this?? Anyway if they didn't have caps it'd mean they'd just get bigger and bigger hence defeating the purpose. IF Arnold is going to get brought to the conversation.. If he was 110k on his day then he could definitely have made the 105 cut and probably looked better on a bodybuildig stage for it imho.

[donz]

Classic physique should mean you can only use drugs manufactured after 1950 and before 1980  

[BeastBuilder]

That's why I said change the judging criteria instead.

If they aren't going to get placed better for getting bigger and start getting placed worse if they do start to lose their aesthetics etc in relation to everyone else then wouldn't that be incentive enough to work on better condition and shape instead of sheer size ?

[trainlikeafreak]

Beast builder I think people in that situation will be more inclined to compete in actual bodybuilding.. As it's been said this class is bridging the gap between phys and bb.. "For phys competitors who are too big and bodybuilders who are too small or don't want to get bigger"

[HarryB]

It'll be interesting to see how popular this class is. I guess if they change the criteria for men's physique then it will force competitors who are bigger and leaner to change classes to continue being competitive. Like they did with figure when they introduced women's physique.

I guess just wait and see how it goes. But again I guess like physique it allows more people to compete and be competitive so more people onstage more in the audience watching them etc etc etc the never ending attempts to create legitimacy and wide spread interest in bodybuilding. If it's anything like what's happened in women's physique or men's physique or even bikini they'll all be super muscular in a year or so because that's what wins comps.

[Gym rat]

Wonder what the numbers will be like in this new class.

[BeastBuilder]

So if it's for small bodybuilders and big physique athletes then why is it called "Classic Physique" and being dubbed as the new golden era class etc if they aren't going to change the judging etc to reflect and reward physiques that are more inclined to that style ?

If it is purely to put height:weight limits on it, it's basically just more weight categories on top of the 212 class they already have.

Like Harry says, I guess it puts more people on stage, more bums in seats, more money in their pockets etc so as a business venture it's a good idea

[trainlikeafreak]

So if it's for small bodybuilders and big physique athletes then why is it called "Classic Physique" and being dubbed as the new golden era class etc if they aren't going to change the judging etc to reflect and reward physiques that are more inclined to that style ?

If it is purely to put height:weight limits on it, it's basically just more weight categories on top of the 212 class they already have.

Like Harry says, I guess it puts more people on stage, more bums in seats, more money in their pockets etc so as a business venture it's a good idea

That quote was from Jim Manion during his interview - watch it.

Im not saying it's all about weight and height.. The weight restriction simply puts a limit as to how big someone can get.. If they are bigger/want to be bigger, do normal bodybuilding. It's not complicated and someone can still look aesthetic as an ordinary bodybuilder lol. People talking like all bodybuilders these days have the aesthetics of a brick.

[BeastBuilder]

That quote was from Jim Manion during his interview - watch it.

Im not saying it's all about weight and height.. The weight restriction simply puts a limit as to how big someone can get.. If they are bigger/want to be bigger, do normal bodybuilding. It's not complicated and someone can still look aesthetic as an ordinary bodybuilder lol. People talking like all bodybuilders these days have the aesthetics of a brick.

To be fair I haven't had a chance to watch the interview so far so soz for being uninformed lol.

I definitely agree bodybuilders can still have aesthetics and be bigger, not denying that, that's kinda the point of my argument against the limitations they're putting on it.

I just thought if they were going to focus more on aesthetics/shape and prioritize that over size/freakishness they could reflect that in their judging. And then could equally reward the mass/graininess etc in the overall bodybuilding like they seem to mostly be doing.

But if they still mean to have all parts rewarded equally in both categories and just want to treat it as a bridging class then who am I to say no lol.

I'm but a lowly powerlifter haha.

Another question that may have been answered in the interview but I foolishly haven't researched all the info, what's up with the posing boxers instead of trunks ? Do they not want to see dem striated glutes ? Are competitors allowed to hitch them up to show conditioning ?

[donz]

it says this on the ifbb site;

 

Classic Bodybuilding:

It is a version of bodybuilding for those male athletes who don’t want to develop their muscles to their “extreme” full potentials but prefer lighter “classic” physique.

To create the equal chances to them, the competitors’ bodyweight is limited according to their body height, following the special IFBB formula for each body height category (currently there are five categories: 168 cm; 171 cm, 175 cm, 180 cm and over 180 cm).

Since muscle mass is limited, special attention is paid to the overall view of the physique, body proportions and lines, muscle shape and condition (density, bodyfat level, definition and details).
These values are assessed by the judges during Rounds 1 and 3. In Round 2, like in bodybuilding, free posing routines are performed to music of athlete’s choice.

Classic Bodybuilding photo: World champion Kikwan SEOL (Rep. of Korea)